"Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Cc: "Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:24:34 +0100 >> >> > When Emacs 21.1 was released, many users complained about the >> > changed menu-bar structure, even though the new structure was >> > generally better, certainly more standard-compliant, and had many >> > useful additions. Still, they complained. There's a lesson to be >> > learned here, IMHO: significant changes in the menu bar should only >> > be done for a very good reason. >> >> Uh, Eli? Reality check. The last released menu structure is from the >> year 2001 or so. > > It was redesigned in 2001, but it was last released just a few weeks > ago, with Emacs 21.4.
I just took a look at Emacs 21.4 and noticed that it indeed is quite similar to what we have now except for a few additions (New file, Hide/Show, Blinking Cursor, CUA mode and some others). Somehow I was of the opinion that the big redesign happened post-21.1. >> No matter _what_ we will release next, it will have significant >> changes all over the board. > > Not in the menu-bar's menu structure, AFAIK. > >> Consistency and cleanliness _are_ good reasons. > > Apparently, not good enough for quite a few users. That was what I > was trying to tell above, obviously with no success. Well, since Hide/Show is an addition since the last release, renaming it to "Appearance" would not be a compatibility consideration. And moving blink-cursor-mode inside of it would make the menu _more_ similar to what we had previously. >> the current structure _is_ already completely dissimilar to the >> last released one. > > Unless I miss a lot of changes, I don't see how the current CVS is > ``completely dissimilar'' to v21.4 as far as the menu bar is > concerned. The changes are quite small. You are correct. Sorry for being confused about that. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel