Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have now enabled Xterm Mouse mode by default in xterm style > terminal emulators, as requested. As I pointed out before, this is > not without problems. > > One of the worst kind of problems occurs when you click on the mode > line. You get no tooltips or echo area messages to tell you what is > going to happen, because, even with Xterm Mouse mode enabled, Emacs > does not respond to mouse over. So basically, when you click on the > mode line you have no idea what is going to happen.
Tooltips are an optional help. A lot of people make do without them. XEmacs has no working tooltips even today. So this is not so very tragic. > The main reason for wanting to click on the mode line is to resize > the window. Should we not disable all the other fireworks in the > mode line when we can not warn the user about them, that is, when > not running under a window system? The "fireworks" are not destructive and usually deliver a text message what happened. I don't see much of a problem here. We might want assign a mouse-button+modifier combination to explictly providing a tooltip in the echo area: that way Xterm users can "explore" things by clicking wildly in a similar way as mouse-over enabled people can. Since point-positioning is not useful on the modeline, one could even use mouse-1 (when used undragged) for that, reserving mouse-2 for the actual action. That way people will tend not to trigger something accidentally. > A basic problem with Xterm Mouse mode is that mouse clicks are > enabled, but the usual tools to tell you that mouse clicks are going > to do something special and what that is (mouse face and tooltips or > echo area messages) are not. I don't see much tragedy here, like I said. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel