> Interesting. I can see your point. However do you use w32?

Yes, I do (as well as FreeBSD, Mac OS X, and occasionally GNU/Linux).

> Do you not find it disturbing then that the ordering of files are
> different in Emacs than outside Emacs on w32?

Nope, I don't find that disturbing at all.

A related issue that I *did* find disturbing: on recent versions of
Fedora Core, the default Dired ordering interleaved dot-files with
ordinary files, because of some DWIMish behavior of the underlying `ls'
implementation. I added "setenv LC_ALL C" to my .cshrc to work around
this behavior, because the underlying `ls' doesn't expose any other knob
to control this behavior. Bleah.

> Maybe you never leave Emacs?

I spend a fair amount of time outside of Emacs under w32 (and the other
systems above).

> But for newbies who are used to other apps under w32, would it not be
> easier for them to adopt to Emacs if the default ordering was the same
> as for other apps?

I don't know. I'm not a newbie, and I don't presume to know what would
be easier for them.

> And those of us (I know now) who can change it, can't we just do that?

Of course, and that's precisely what I'll do if this default changes.


Ted

-- 
Edward O'Connor
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Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem.



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