On Jun 14, 2007, at 17:43, Rick Moynihan wrote:

pete phillips wrote:
"John" == John Rakestraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    John> In response to which, Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think '- item 3' still should be aligned to '- item 2'. If user
    >> want to move the item deeper, 'M-right' can be used.
>> John> I agree with Leo -- or, rather, his proposal matches more nicely the
    John> way I work. I often have lists with some items annotated and
    John> others not annotated --
I agree with John and Leo. Pete

Given that my initial suggestion of multiple TAB presses goes against the Emacs grain, I'm also in favour of John of Leo as my lists aren't structured in a way consistent with Carsten's proposal.

Maybe not really against Emacs grain, but it is certainly not
common to have such a command.  In fact, we have one, C-a, if
turned on with org-special-control-a.

The problem I am seeing really is that the structure of a list
in org-mode is *defined* by indentation.  So there is no
clean way to have TAB automatically do the right thing,
certainly not with indent-region.  So all this discussion
can be about is what a sensible default can be - and you
will have to create the structure yourself anyway.

In this way, I am now tending to agree that a flat list default
makes sense.

- Carsten



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