On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:23 AM Max Nikulin <maniku...@gmail.com> wrote: ...
> >> You even have managed to convince me that, besides adding missing style > >> names, some existing ones should be adjusted. noauthor/bare for citeyear > >> example makes for me much more sense ... > > > > This does need some attention, but there are wrinkles here. > > > > Citeyear is specific to author-date styles, while noauthor is intended > > to be more general. > > Anyway citation style is rather specific for a particular CSL style. I > tried some styles: > https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/ieee.csl > https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/american-physics-society.csl > nature.csl science.csl and for all these styles even "author" is > meaningless since they are numeric styles. Yes. I think it's more relevant in author-date to note styles. I believe biblatex has a command relevant here, but Denis knows biblatex better than I. > So it is not more general. Switching CSL style means necessity to update > styles in each citations (unless it is possible to specify global or > per-cite mapping). Not really. Arguably the most important style is "text", which applies to any output style; author-date, note-based, numeric. When you start getting into some of the others, the range of styles a given style may apply to shrinks. But you might say author-date styles are pretty dependent on such local citation modification. If those are output to a style that has no such notions (like a numeric one), then a processor can just ignore it. > It seems modifiers are set of boolean flags (positive "year" or negative > "suppress-author") in citeproc.el, set of values in natbib, and a kind > of hierarchy in org-cite. From my point of view, set of constrains > (flags) is the most general variant in this list. I think that's right, and is how it's represented in a GUI app like Zotero. But that's not so convenient in a plain text format. But it's a good way to explain the differences. > > I think it's probably a good idea to add "year" to the latex processors too. > > I agree. Negations are more confusing when an author needs just year. We might as well do that then, along with bibentry/fullcite. ... > I am familiar with bst language used by BibTeX and I am surprised that > initials instead of full names are not enforced by CSL styles. I'm not following here. Certainly one can specify initialization rules in a CSL style. WDYM by "enforced"? > Emphasis and bold markers may appear in plain text export. Behavior of styles > is > not uniform in respect to adding (unbreakable?) space before citation. Sorry; not following here again. Isn't the space before a citation determined by the user? Bruce
