Juan Manuel Macías <maciasch...@posteo.net> writes: > Hi David, > > David Masterson writes: > >> I haven't touched Hyperbole in ...decades...? Even then, it was >> complicated and full-featured (but I still keep it in my .emacs file). >> My discussions with Bob Weiner were interesting at the time and I really >> wanted to make use of it. >> >> As you've discovered, it integrates a lot of what Org has in, perhaps, a >> tighter fashion (which makes it more complicated, but the pain might be >> useful). The Smart Keys and Buttons are very similar to Org. The >> outliner (KOutline) is more powerful than Org, but not integrated with >> export capabilities to other formats (I think there is a way of >> exporting an outline to Org). Something that Org does not have is >> browsing capabilities for Object Oriented languages. This is an add-on >> (for C++ ?) in Hyperbole (search for OO-Browser). Since I retired, I >> don't do much programming, so Org's project management has been more >> interesting to me. >> >> It's nice to see that it's actually still being developed by Bob. > > Thanks for all the interesting facts about hyperbole. I hadn't looked at > the package source code info yet, and didn't know that this is all the > work of one person. I also thought hyperbole was more recent... > > It certainly has some interesting stuff. In what way is KOutline more > powerful than Org? Do you think there is any useful feature of KOutline > that could be incorporated into Org?
KOutline has a much larger set of commands for working with outlines. However, that's an example of complexity in that it's a lot to keep in your head. The permanent (hidden) ids make it possible to build (say) a personal Wiki of information where rearranging the outline doesn't mess up the links. > So far I've been able to find a couple of practical uses for this > package in my workflow. The whole window control system is very > powerful, although it would have been better if it had been a single > separate package, IMHO. I tended to look at EXWM, but didn't get too far. I may look at Hycontrol again... > Implicit links have a lot of potential. For example, I've managed to > define some buttons for LaTeX, which recognize LaTeX commands and > environments and lead to the local TeX live documentation or > tex.stackexchange.org. It's like giving a LaTeX document a sort of hover > help. This could also be done in Org, by defining some patterns as > implicit buttons to lead to Org info pages. Have you looked at Hydra? But Hyperbole's implicit links are better. -- David Masterson