Hi Leo
not suggesting anything... just exploring alternatives. I too have a lot of
UTF-8 in my
documents and pdf-latex chokes at them, too.
I'm not using preview -have never been- because my field of research didn't
need complex
math in my papers.

Thanks for your feedback :-)
/PA

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 16:11, Leo Butler <leo.but...@umanitoba.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 10 2025, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jürgen writes:
> >
> >>Am 03.04.25 um 09:37 Uhr schrieb Ihor Radchenko:
> >>>> I don't agree. Users who are apparently happy with LuaLaTeX should
> >>>> have no problems with pdflatex and UTF8.
> >>> If you know an easy and universal way to support UTF8 is pdflatex,
> >>> please do share.
> >>
> >> I am sorry I could not read all the discussion up to here, but you might
> >> like to take a look at this discussion that took place on several TUG
> >> mailing lists whe TeX Live 2025 was published over the last weeks as to
> >> whether to use pdftex, luatex, or xetex as the default engine. It turns
> >> out that only luatex is capable of producing accessible pdf, next comes
> >> pdftex, "albeit with some restrictions", and xetex falls short of this
> >> feature. So most probably only luatex will be used in the long run, as
> >> accessibility will be required for most publications, at least for
> >> scientific papers. This is not only a ITF-8 issue. I'm surprised TeX
> >> Live is said not to work properly out of the box on some Linux
> >> distributions, hard to believe it's true. Please check again and report
> >> to the appropriate tracker in case it really does not work on your
> system.
> >>
> >> https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2025-March/051258.html
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Jürgen.
> >
> > Hi Jürgen,
> >
> > thanks a lot for the pointers and for sniffing the LaTeX mailing lists.
> > There is so much going on, that it is impossible to follow everything.
> >
> > From the message I gather that accessible documents is the main target
> for
> > the TeX people (which is more than reasonable) and that speed is only
> > secondary.
> >
> > Now the question seems to be whether latex-preview could "live an
> > independent life" with pdflatex at the heart of it's tooling, whereas
> > document production could "move on" to use lualatex as the default tool
> to
> > generate the PDFs. I may be overoptimistic in thinking that pdflatex and
> > lualatex have still a long way together, whereas xetex seems to be fading
> > away.
>
> As a result of Karthik's contribution, I have been using pdflatex and
> lualatex for preview purposes in the last couple weeks. I use a lot of
> utf-8 in my org documents. Pdflatex just cannot compete for typesetting,
> even in preview. My feeling is that for modestly complicated snippets,
> lualatex is a better choice, despite the slower speed. Having said that,
> I do not use a continual previewer like Karthik demonstrated in one of
> his screencasts.
>
> So, my 2¢ is that there is no advantage to the bifurcation that you are
> suggesting.
>
> Leo



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