So "my" improvements to ob-sml are causing a problem -- is what this sounds
like, right? If I had simply said, "Hey guys, me and a friend have done a
new version ob-sml..." there would have been no problem?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2026 at 6:52 PM Jim Porter <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 3/5/2026 3:53 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> > Jim Porter <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> The US Supreme Court has recently affirmed that the outputs of
> >> generative AI aren't copyrightable; the "author" is held to be the
> >> computer, but copyright is only applicable to creative works authored
> >> by humans. The result is that the gen-AI outputs are public domain.
> >
> > That's the US, and Free Software rests on a shared understanding of
> > copyright that applies broadly (across Berne Convention countries).
> >
> > Did they really say that so precisely?   I can certainly see that there
> > can be no original copyright in LLM output, lacking a human, but I don't
> > see how copyrighted input works are laundered of their copyrights.
>
> Specifically, the US Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal in Thaler
> v. Perlmutter[1], where the plaintiff argued that he should be allowed
> to copyright an AI-generated image. As far as I know, the court didn't
> address the question of whether it's legal to use copyrighted works as
> inputs to train the models in the first place. (Or what happens if an
> end-user prompts a model to regenerate an approximation of one of its
> copyrighted inputs.)
>
> I probably overstated matters when I said that gen-AI outputs are public
> domain without any additional qualifications. I suppose that only
> applies if the work isn't infringing copyright in the first place.
>
> [1]
>
> https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-declines-hear-dispute-over-copyrights-ai-generated-material-2026-03-02/
>


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