Thanks Thomas. I got enough proof org can really be used to write a book after finding out that Avdi Grimm wrote and published his exceptional ruby book (http://exceptionalruby.com/) using org ;)
It's nice to be part of such a great community. Orgmode ROCKS! Thank you for the help, now I'll get some much needed LaTeX knownledge. Marcelo. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thomas S. Dye <t...@tsdye.com> wrote: > Aloha Marcelo, > > I don't /believe/ org will keep you from doing that. > > My guess is that you are going to end up redefining the LaTeX \maketitle > command, see > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-11_2 > > I've done this once or twice--it's an adventure for someone with my > limited programming skills. You're likely to get needed advice from the > folks at comp.text.tex if your introductory LaTeX readings don't get you > where you want to be. > > Good luck! > > Tom > > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celose...@gmail.com> writes: > >> Cool, I will do! >> >> But org doesn't impose some structure that might prevent me from >> putting the cover in the first page? Just curious. I wouldn't also >> like to have to edit the latex generated afterwards, but that's a >> possibility. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Marcelo. >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Thomas S. Dye <t...@tsdye.com> wrote: >>> Aloha Marcelo, >>> >>> Others might do this differently, but I don't use LaTeX for book >>> covers. I only use it for the pages of the book. >>> >>> It sounds like your cover image is floating, which is something that >>> LaTeX does with tables and images. If you are new to LaTeX and don't >>> have a feel for how it handles "floats", then I recommend an >>> introductory text. Leslie Lamport's book is terrific, but there are >>> other good introductions on the Internet. >>> >>> Org-mode and its LaTeX exporter are *not* going to insulate you from the >>> need to learn some LaTeX, especially if you intend to write something as >>> complex as a book. >>> >>> hth, >>> Tom >>> >>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celose...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> Thomas, >>>> >>>> I have a more specific question. I have already managed to embed an >>>> image to act as the cover of the book. However, the image is being >>>> shown in the third page. I want the sequence to be like this: >>>> >>>> 1) Cover image >>>> 2) The sub-cover: >>>> >>>> "Title"" >>>> My Name >>>> Date >>>> >>>> 3) TOC >>>> >>>> 4) Intro, chapters... >>>> >>>> How could I do that? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Marcelo. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Thomas S. Dye <t...@tsdye.com> wrote: >>>>> Aloha Marcelo, >>>>> >>>>> The approach I would take here, which might not be what you want, would >>>>> be to use inline markup: >>>>> >>>>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-10_3 >>>>> >>>>> You would define the output for the various exporters in the link >>>>> definition, with something fancy for LaTeX and whatever else works in >>>>> the other export formats you care to support. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celose...@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Cool! Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now that you mention it, I was wondering if something like "condition >>>>>> export" is possible. For very specific localized LaTeX fetures, it >>>>>> would be useful. Take this example: >>>>>> >>>>>> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >>>>>> >>>>>> #+LaTeX:\yinipar{\color{red}H}ello World >>>>>> >>>>>> This created a first-letter that is stylized differently. This won't >>>>>> come out in any other exported, so I'd like to do something like >>>>>> (NOTE: pseudo-code!) >>>>>> >>>>>> #+LaTeX:\yinipar{\color{red}H}ello World >>>>>> >>>>>> #iif not LaTeX >>>>>> Hello World >>>>>> #end >>>>>> >>>>>> If it is not possible what I can do is to pre-process the orgfile with >>>>>> something like ERB (I'm familiar with Ruby) or another templating >>>>>> language before exporting (and even automate it all by calling emacs >>>>>> in batch mode ;) ), but it'd be nice if org supported that >>>>>> out-of-the-box. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcelo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Thomas S. Dye <t...@tsdye.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celose...@gmail.com> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So today I have been reseaching about higher-levels toolkits that >>>>>>>> could help me get into TeX (and or LaTeX) and at the same time >>>>>>>> allowing me to keep the text in a more human-readable format (easier >>>>>>>> to mantain and to convert to other formats if needed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know that if I want beautiful formatted PDFs I will need to get into >>>>>>>> TeX / LaTeX, and I already started doing that, but as I said, keeping >>>>>>>> the text in a higher level format has benefits that you already know >>>>>>>> about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I looked at asciidoc, the lower-level XML-based docbook, markdown, >>>>>>>> pandoc, ConTeXt, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then I thought, why not try orgmode? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, after reading this article: >>>>>>>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html, I've then >>>>>>>> realized how powerful the org-export feature is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can basically do this: >>>>>>>> * Keep the text in a (very) human readable format that I'm used to >>>>>>>> and that is much better to maintain than any other format I know >>>>>>>> (markdown / asciidoc) and integrated with my own orgmode personal >>>>>>>> information manager! >>>>>>>> * Add / customize the LaTeX output in *ANY* way I want to. Thanks to >>>>>>>> org AND babel! From what I can see, there are no limitations on how >>>>>>>> complex the LaTeX customizations can be, it can essentially match up >>>>>>>> any other "pure" latex documents out there. >>>>>>>> * As noted above, fully support LaTeX while still allowing me to >>>>>>>> export to: >>>>>>>> * plaintext >>>>>>>> * HTML >>>>>>>> * DocBook (and hence an array of other formats) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mean, how cool is that? I'm only starting in TeX/LaTeX so I might be >>>>>>>> overlooking some limitations, but from what I can see, orgmode is the >>>>>>>> most pragmatic and powerful publishing framework I have ever come to >>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And what excites me even more is that I can keep my book in my >>>>>>>> preferred format and still output a beautifully-formatted PDF book >>>>>>>> *and* still support other formats (such as mobi or epub through >>>>>>>> docbook). Amazing! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By the way, if I want to use raw TeX or maybe ConTeXt, is it possible? >>>>>>>> Not that I need, only curious :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This needs more hype! I don't think people realize how powerful this >>>>>>>> is ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marcelo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aloha Marcelo, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The LaTeX export tutorial is a work in progress. I hope you find it >>>>>>> useful. When you run across something that doesn't work (or make sense) >>>>>>> don't hesitate to come back to the list with a query or suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thomas S. Dye >>>>>>> http://www.tsdye.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thomas S. Dye >>>>> http://www.tsdye.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas S. Dye >>> http://www.tsdye.com >>> >> > > -- > Thomas S. Dye > http://www.tsdye.com >