Hi John, hi everyone,
Here are the headers of my org-file:
#+OPTIONS: LaTeX:verbatim
#+LaTeX_CLASS: koma-article
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper,twoside,twocolumn]
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [captions=tableheading]
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[AUTO]{inputenc}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{fitch}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{bussproofs}
#+LaTeX_CLASS: koma-article
#+LANGUAGE: en
#+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[backend=biber,style=verbose]{biblatex}
#+LaTeX_HEADER: \bibliography{jvr-biblatex-references.bib}
#+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{bussproofs}
#+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{fitch}
#+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{hyperref}
#+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick
#+TITLE: a title
#+AUTHOR: Joseph Vidal-Rosset
I have a couple of questions:
1) Does biblatex works with ox-bibtex.el ? I suppose that it does not but
I can switch to bibtex.
2) I do not know the headers that I have exactly to add in this file.
Best wishes,
Jo.
2014/1/3 John Hendy <[email protected]>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Joseph Vidal-Rosset
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there somewhere a documentation with a simple helpful example to
> follow
> > from step to step in order to use ox-bibtex or bibeltex ? I got only a
> > message error : "bibtex2html failed" and I do not understand why.
> >
> > Reading this page, for example,
> > http://bowenli37.wordpress.com/tag/org-exp-bibtex/
> > I understand that I must add #+LINK ..
> >
> > But nothing works...
>
>
> I think you need to post a minimal example with everything required.
> For those of us who have never used bibtex (me), it's not clear what
> you're trying to do and we (at least I) can't help. For example,
> googling "orgmode bibtex" produces links which don't seem to do the
> same thing, from my skimming:
> -
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/114864/how-to-get-bibtex-to-work-with-org-mode-latex-export
> - http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-05/msg00791.html
> - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/org-bibtex-api.html
> - http://blog.karssen.org/2013/08/22/using-bibtex-from-org-mode/
> -
> http://tincman.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/research-paper-management-with-emacs-org-mode-and-reftex/
>
> For example, only one of those (that I noted), mentions anything about
> #+LINK, so I'm thinking that what you are trying to do must be a
> subset of everything embodied by "Orgmode and bibtex" since some
> fairly complete other posts get by without mentioning using #+LINK.
>
> Can you post:
> - Minimal .org file
> - Reproducible .emacs with what you currently have setup to get things
> working
> - The matching minimal bibliography file
> - Perhaps the output you want (in LaTeX or whatever output language)
>
> Apologies if the above is self-explanatory and I'm playing the
> un-needed role of mailing list police. I've noticed a lot of questions
> recently without sufficient detail. Always posting with clear goals,
> files so others can reproduce, and example output you want saves
> others having to fill in the blanks.
>
> You'll also get a lot more help since those generous with their time
> can easily copy and paste some code into their own local Emacs setups
> and see if it works. That helps differentiate setup issues from syntax
> issues from usage issues, etc.
>
>
>
> John
>
> P.S. Also post what you actually *have* tried. This saves others
> having to re-try what you tried, since no one knows that "but nothing
> works" means concretely. There's a blog post link with a bunch of
> stuff in it, followed by "but nothing works." What, exactly, from that
> blog post did you try (as in, paste the code from the various
> categories above -- org file, .emacs, bib file -- for each thing
> attempted)?
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help
> >
> > Jo.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/2 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> Great ! Many thanks Eric. I see also that I have to forget gmail in
> order
> >> to definitely adopt gnus ! :)
> >>
> >> I will be back on the list to say thank you again , to all of you.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jo.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014/1/2 Eric Schulte <[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>> Take a look at ox-bibtex.el in contrib [1], which adds support for
> >>> bibtex citations. The commentary at the top of that file explains the
> >>> usage, but in brief, ox-bibtex adds cite: links which will export to
> >>> HTML, ASCII and LaTeX (using bibtex2html [2] for HTML export, and
> pandoc
> >>> [3] for ASCII export).
> >>>
> >>> For example, I've used ox-bibtex to write this Org file [4], which
> >>> exports to this HTML [5], as well as LaTeX.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Joseph Vidal-Rosset <[email protected]> writes:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Rasmus, hi the list,
> >>> >
> >>> > Reading this thread I've understood that the question of html export
> of
> >>> > biblatex citations is still an open problem for org-mode developers,
> >>> > right
> >>> > ?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks to the online manual and the help of the list, I have
> succeeded
> >>> > to
> >>> > write a template of koma-article class which is correctly exported
> both
> >>> > in
> >>> > latex and in html. But I meet the problem of exporting into html
> >>> > footnotes
> >>> > and references.
> >>> >
> >>> > At the moment, what is the best i.e. the more convenient solution?
> >>> >
> >>> > My best wishes for this new year,
> >>> >
> >>> > Jo.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 2013/5/21 Rasmus <[email protected]>
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Now that 8.0 has shipped let's talk bibliography support. This
> >>> >> follows directly upon the discussion around March[1].
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The essence of the thread was that some people agreed that it would
> be
> >>> >> nice to have support for citation commands build into Org (I'll
> >>> >> summarize in the next post). But let me first restate my own take
> on
> >>> >> the issue. IMO a nice format would be:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> (*) [KEYWORD PROPERTIES]
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think we should allow for a more general approach than one just
> for
> >>> >> citation and this is a good thing (IMO).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The in-buffer display of (*) could be governed by
> >>> >> org-buffer-format-KEYWORD (similar to
> >>> >> gnus-user-format-function-LETTER) or just identity if no function is
> >>> >> defined. Export could be handled by org-BACKEND-KEYWORD or
> >>> >> org-export-KEYWORD. With officially recognized KEYWORDs something
> >>> >> like citation could be a 'first-class citizen'. PROPERTIES could
> be a
> >>> >> string like:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> optional-keyless-entry :prop1 one :prop2 two ...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Perhaps, treatment of keyword, could even be handled by an
> >>> >> in-buffer Org Babel function in the spirit of e.g. reproducible
> >>> >> research (see below).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This would be different from Org links in that (*) is more like a
> >>> >> functions that allows for (i) pretty and informative display in
> >>> >> buffer/export and (ii) easy user extension.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think there are many compelling use-cases for such a framework.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 1. Citation: Take the keyword citetext which should be an 'official'
> >>> >> KEYWORD. So for instance we could have
> >>> >>
> >>> >> [citetext BIBTEX-KEY :prenote note, w/comma :postnote blah].
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In buffers, via org-in-buffer-format-citetext, it would be
> >>> >> displayed as
> >>> >>
> >>> >> BIBTEX-KEY (note, w/comma, YEAR, blah)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> or something similar (depending to what extend bibtex.el would be
> >>> >> leveraged; e.g. BIBTEX-KEY might show the author/editor key and
> >>> >> YEAR would also depend on parsing a bibtex file) (obviouesly,
> >>> >> there's some reference to a bibtex file somewhere). In LaTeX it
> >>> >> would be exported as
> >>> >>
> >>> >> \citetext[note,w/comma][blah]{BIBTEX-KEY}
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In html it might utilize some tool that understand bibtex
> (there's
> >>> >> a link to such a tool in the next post). In ASCII it could
> almost
> >>> >> use what would be displayed in the buffer.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 2. MY-FUN: MY-FUN is some function that does something with some
> >>> >> properties, perhaps just a string (simple cases: [sc text] is
> used
> >>> >> for small caps, or mayhaps [my-treat-dna-string DNA-STRING]). I
> >>> >> might use it in a single file that I want to send to people or I
> >>> >> might just use it in my notes. Currently it's implemented via
> >>> >> org-emphasis-alist or as a link. Changing emphases is a hacks,
> and
> >>> >> they are hard to export with the now more robust Org syntax and
> >>> >> further permit little control over how they are displayed
> >>> >> in-buffer. Links are more flexible but lacks display control and
> >>> >> becomes somewhat painful with many arguments[2]. Also, MY-FUN
> >>> >> doesn't take a 'description'. With (*) I could simply write
> >>> >>
> >>> >> [MY-FUN PROPERTIES].
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Perhaps, I could even define org-BACKEND-MY-FUN in a babel block
> >>> >> if it's only relevant to the current file.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There's been some work and some discussion on this already, most
> >>> >> notably Aaron already supplied some patches towards this end[3],
> >>> >> but using a slightly different syntax more like the link syntax;
> >>> >> e.g. textcite above would look like
> >>> >>
> >>> >> [[textcite:bibtex-key&&pre%3Dfoo&&post%3Dbar][whatever]]
> >>> >>
> >>> >> where whatever is ignored. The state of the discussion is to some
> >>> >> extend summarized in the next post.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It would love to hear whether other people find something like this
> to
> >>> >> be a good idea? Would anyone find a use such a framework? Would
> (*)
> >>> >> conflict with anyone's current usage of Org? Is (*) too ambitious
> and
> >>> >> in terms of getting citation support? Is this is taking a musket to
> >>> >> kill a butterfly? What are the the flaws in the above.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm not a good (lisp) programmer, but I think I have a month off
> this
> >>> >> summer where I could work on something like the above.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks for reading,
> >>> >> Rasmus
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Footnotes:
> >>> >> [1] http://mid.gmane.org/20130303070635.GA12112%40panahar
> >>> >> [2] my citation links often look like postnote;prenote without
> >>> >> showing the BIBTEX-KEY or citation format.
> >>> >> [2] here http://mid.gmane.org/87lia0s7wi.fsf%40bzg.ath.cx
> >>> >> and here http://mid.gmane.org/87wqthk7vj.fsf%40gmail.com.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> When in doubt, do it!
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Footnotes:
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=blob_plain;f=contrib/lisp/ox-bibtex.el;hb=HEAD
> >>>
> >>> [2] http://www.lri.fr/~filliatr/bibtex2html/
> >>>
> >>> [3] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
> >>>
> >>> [4]
> >>>
> https://github.com/eschulte/netgear-repair/blob/master/pub/netgear-repair.org
> >>>
> >>> [5] http://eschulte.github.io/netgear-repair/pub/netgear-repair.html
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Eric Schulte
> >>> https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
> >>> PGP: 0x614CA05D
> >>
> >>
> >
>
