On 25/gen/2010, at 00.46, Caio Chassot wrote:

> On 2010-01-24, at 17:16 , Davide 'Folletto' Casali wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Letters [W] Windows [20100124]:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/72666/Letters/Letters%20%5BW%5D%20Windows%20%5B20100124%5D.pdf
> 
> # Message window:
> 
> Where's the NNW-style widescreen view? Mail-style 3-pane is a total waste of 
> space. I refer back to rentzsch. 
> (http://rentzsch.com/notes/widescreenNetNewsWire)

I've just added a generic one with the labels, I'm still not sure how the 
discussion about it is ended / will end.
I think that some permutations exists... I'm just not sure which will be pushed 
forward for 1.0.

At this time, I could probably bet on:
. 3-cols view (sidebar + list + mail thread
. 2-cols view (sidebar + list and mail thread together)
. 1-col view (sidebar closed, mail view pane closed)

Maybe a word from our Leader will be useful :)



>> And here is where we meet the reason for my dislike of the classic 
>> email-style three paned view: it stacks two vertical-space-hungry views on 
>> top of another. Specifically, the "subjects" view and the "content" view 
>> both tend to want most of my vertical screen real estate. Of course, neither 
>> can win, since they're stacked up. The end result is that both scroll their 
>> content. Lots of scrolling is unfun.
> 
> Also: conversation view instead of single-message view.

Yes! :)
That's about threading: it's in the Wireframe [T] Threads ;)

The single message is a popup that I think is a must have (I don't think 
there's anybody against it, or am I wrong?).




> # Composer window
> 
> I like gmail-style inline replies. Easy to refer back to the entire thread. 
> 
> Doesn't need to happen in the same window as gmail does, tho. That's a web 
> limitation.
> 
> Could happen in the same window with a split view, the thread showing above. 
> Other ideas?

I agree. I'll elaborate a bit more the Threads wireframes. ;)

Sill, I know many persons (me included) that prepare multiple mails in parallel 
(that's one of the reasons I don't use the Gmail web app) this is not possible 
or very hard with an inline reply (while I agree it's very important in 
threaded discussions).

If we'll go with the threads/gmail style, what's your position on the 
possibility of a detachable reply window?





> Another thing: the headers. I'm not sure tabbing is the best navigation 
> method. Maybe if the headers were half-free-form? Specifically, they'd belong 
> inside the main text area. You wouldn't be able to edit the header names, 
> etc, but navigation to and fro and be less rigid than distinct text fields 
> for each header. I think this leads to a more compact, navigable, and 
> light-weight view. In mail, the header fields take up waaay too much space.

I'm not really sure about it. I'd like a different graphic from current mail 
programs (something where the Subject is like a "title" of the email for 
example) but I don't think free-form is for me.

For the light-weigthness I'd work on the graphic, not on the input method.

|D




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