>>+ This also means that apps can't block my machine. Very common >>experience in OS 9 even on G4 hardware. >I have had apps (mostly games) do this in X - the game 'takes over' the >machine with no way to switch out. If it hten crashes (happened) the only >way 'out' is to restart. But it's not a natural experience, which was my point. Didn't you get it? Badly written apps can destable any platform.
>>+ No Kernel panics since 10.1.3 >I installed (clean) jaguar 2.5 weeks ago since then I have had 6 kernal >panics, an innumerable amount of app crashes, and just general >instability while running X. Boot back into 9 and have not a single >crash (app or OS) That's is not the fault of OS X, which my experience shows. I only said I have had NO kernel panics since that version. If you're not crashing in OS 9 even once a week for a machine up 24/7, then that's very rare. To say that OS X apps in general crash more than OS 9 apps is close to lying. If you reallt think this is typical OS 9 experience, then go to the archives at macfixit.com and relearn the recent Mac OS history. >-- trouble shooting any of the above problems is pointless >* The OS gives no error codes - cryptic or not. THerfore there is no way >to even begin to determine what caused the problem. Was it memory, >directory structure, bad programming, an OS issue, a peripheral issue?? >what???? You have to get a good book and learn. Once upon a time you were this fresh in Mac OS. What do you ask from a new OS? This is not Copland dreams anymore. Grow up or stay in fantasy land. Or stay on OS 9. I don't care as long as you don't spread erroneous information. >>+ Emailer works fine in classic through ADSL. >No it does not - >as has been posted here previously - >when retrieving email, during the unpacking process, emailer (for me) >crashes, for others (as I understand) fails to unpack the email. Emailer have NEVER crashed since 98. Not in OS 9 nor in OS X. I have had 100 000+ messages and rebuilt once a year. if you have an unpack problem, YOU and others have an Emailer problem, concerning either the app itself, extensions ( I have none as I don't need them in Classic, so I keep an OS X Classic profile) conflicting or some messages that have problems. Don't claim that OS X CAUSES *THIS* or I'll have to label you as mythoman. Or *prove* that it is causing the problems in question. you seem to think that your stories can nullify my experience. You re wrong. AFA Emailer is concerned you'll be on thin ice to say it's the error of OS X. I have no problems in OS 9 nor OS X with Emailer. This means IT IS POSSIBLE!!!! >Break from existing (previous) interface - WITH OUT good (exteme) reason >* moving the window widgets -placing the wigets together (ala winblows) >facilitates one of the most obvious problems th winblos inerface suffers >- 'mis-clicking'. I agree on this one, hoping for a third party solution or that Apple gets that. I doubt that though. I can live with it though. >after 2 years apps that some people (not me) need do not function - as >far as I can tell there is *NOTHING* to support midi - natively. Ehum. Then you can't read. Emagic Logic 5.3 works with OS X. The native audiocore supports MIDI as well as 2ms latency. Latency is all about MIDI to Audio (keyboard to software synth apps). >and while we are discussing hardware (midi) SCSI support in X is >miserable at best. Most existing scsi cards do not work, cause crashing, >or other instability in the OS or other apps. Those few that DO work >most do not fully support raid, and are not the faster cards. And just whose fault is that? Do Apple make those cards? I think not. >>- You need to invest about a hundred dollars for more RAM, 30 MB seem to >>be the magic minimum, but usually 512 MB is downright wonderful. If you >>can afford 1Gb+, get it. >Ok - so now the new machine I just spent a minimum of $1200 on does not >have enough RAM torun the OS that comes installed on it?!?! this is a >good selling point. You seem to ignore what I wrote, which is an insult, that my 128 MB Powerbook in OS X 10.2 is as reponsive as OS 9. your conclusions are in error. There is no difference between OS X and OS 9 in RAM requirements for optimal nor usable performance. OS X used to crave 256 MB minimum just for working for anything before 10.2. Not so anymore if my 120 MB experience is worth anything. The machines Apple have sold have NEVER, as far as I'm concerned, had enough default RAM to give a good user experience. Early iMacs had 64 MB and OS 9 took 40 of that, OS 8 was around 12-20 MB. Hello? I'm surprised Apple don't run more sell RAM campaigns. What's stopping them? >>- You need to get batchMod, Pseudo or Skeleton in order to get decent GUI >>file handling, with user rights and groups. Or you can turn this off on >>removable drives or other drives beside your boot. >Why? - not why do I need it - but why *should* I need it? Because OS X have file security and is a multiuser system. >I have machines here at work, and my machine at home (before installing >X) which ran for months with out ever being turned off (or rebooted or >crashed) under OS 9. So then you didn't quit and open many different apps on this machines, or as I did, you quit in reverse order of opening apps, in order to prevent memory fragmentation which is a given in OS 9. A quite perverse way of living. Just give it time. If you claim you did quit and open apps without preventing memory fragmentation, then your apps ask for very small amount of RAM and never was near maximum RAM usage. Either that or you're a complete liar, as there is no way of physically preventing memory fragmentation under Mac OS. OS X apps, beside classic apps of course, don't have this problem. The problem needing a reboot is using too much RAM in my case. I wouldn't even be in the position to use that much RAM in Mac OS as the VM implementation sucks. OS X machines that don't change the amount of RAM used will work fine without reboots for months and years. I plan to implement my new OS X server this way. Never rebooting that is, which will eb a god thing as it's offsite. Thank you for reading this far Micke Bystrom Project Manager Web & Idea Developer ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
