> chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10/10/2002 9:15 AM):
>You are dealing with POP (incoming) mail, so Baton Mail shouldn't be part
>of the setup. Baton Mail assists with SMTP (outbound) mail only.
Thanks, Chris. I guess I don't understand what to use when/where and am
probably struggling with two issues. 1) the authorization for connecting
to the msn.com server, and 2) using eMailer.
(I gave up once before trying to get this to work, but when I went to
cancel the free trial DSL account, msn extended it for two months.
Microsoft support simply says that I need an application that does smtp
authorization, and of course are only familiar with OE & Entourage. This
is my last try before canceling again.)
With emailer I've so far failed to gain either send or receive with the
msn account, nor send with the spiritone.com account. (No problems
getting mail from the spiritone account; I revert to dialup for sending.
I've also been trying to use Baton Mail for authorization to connect to
netnews.msn.com with MT-Newswatcher, without success.)
Settings that work for Entourage are
User Name: clincoln123
POP3 Server: pop3.email.msn.com
SMTP Server: macsmtp.email.msn.com
In Baton Mail I've tried combinations of SMTP and POP3 authorizations.
The hosts file is as provided with Baton Mail; no modifications. Perhaps
you or someone can guide me further.
Following are sample logs and the previous email exchange on the subject.
- Charlie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
========== BEGIN BATON MAIL LOG ===========
Log Started: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:35:42 PM
GetStatus- Connecting
GetSend- 220 Ready
InitSend- Sends 0
Checking Online Status
GetRec- HELO [192.168.1.2]
GetSend- 250 OK
tOnline=OFF, tOffline=ON, initget
InitGet- Gets 2
GetStatusInit- Listening
GetRec- MAIL FROM: <clincoln123>
MatchAcct- clincoln123
MatchAcct-
MatchAcct- 0
SendSetAcct-
0,macsmtp.email.msn.com,25,pop3.email.msn.com,110,clincoln123,*password*,PO
P
SendInit- POP,110,pop3.email.msn.com
SendStatus- Connecting
SendRec- +OK CPIMSPOP3A08.email.msn.com POP3 Server
SendStatus- POP Authorizing
SendPAuth- user clincoln123
SendRec- -ERR Permission denied
SendStatus- POP Authorizing
SendPAuth- POP AUTH failed on connection2
FoundError- 500 POP AUTH failed on connection
FoundErrorGStatus- Listening
FoundError- QUIT
FoundErrorSStatus- POP AUTH failed on connection
GetStatus- Connecting
GetSend- 220 Ready
InitSend- Sends 0
Checking Online Status
tOnline=OFF, tOffline=ON, initget
InitGet- Gets 2
GetStatusInit- Listening
FoundError- 500 Time Out, Server failed to respond
FoundErrorGStatus- Listening
========== END BATON MAIL LOG ===========
========== BEGIN EMAILER ALERT ===========
Execution of Schedule �Connect Now� at Fri, Oct 11, 2002 3:36:53 PM
Preparing messages
Connecting to Internet using Account �Baton/msn�
Sending mail using �localhost�
Sending 1 of 1
Sending message �Baton Mail Test�
** SMTP server error �500 POP AUTH failed on connection�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Checking email account �clincoln123�
** Could not check messages because either the domain name or the
username of your email account is blank. The email account should be of
the form [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Execution of Schedule �Connect Now� at Fri, Oct 11, 2002 3:37:47 PM
Preparing messages
Connecting to Internet using Account �Baton/msn�
Sending mail using �localhost�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Checking email account �[EMAIL PROTECTED]�
Execution of Schedule �Connect Now� at Fri, Oct 11, 2002 3:38:41 PM
Preparing messages
Connecting to Internet using Account �Baton/msn�
Sending mail using �localhost�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Checking email account �[EMAIL PROTECTED]�
Execution of Schedule �Connect Now� at Fri, Oct 11, 2002 3:57:31 PM
Preparing messages
Connecting to Internet using Account �Baton/msn�
Sending mail using �localhost�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Checking email account �[EMAIL PROTECTED]�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Execution of Schedule �Connect Now� at Fri, Oct 11, 2002 3:58:13 PM
Preparing messages
Connecting to Internet using Account �Baton/msn�
Sending mail using �localhost�
Sending 1 of 1
Sending message �Baton Mail Test�
** SMTP server error �500 POP AUTH failed on connection�
** Couldn�t complete the last command because a network stream error
occurred.
Checking email account �[EMAIL PROTECTED]�
** Pop server error �-ERR Permission denied�
========== END EMAILER ALERT ===========
> chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10/10/2002 9:15 AM):
>>A clarification please. Trying these permutations should be in the
>>eMailer "Account Setup: Email Account" field, correct?
>
>Correct
>
>> And if the SMTP
>>server is "macsmtp.mail.msn.com", that is what should be after the @ ?
>
>The SMTP server and the POP server are potentially two different
>servers... so you can't blanketly say that what is in the SMTP server
>field is what goes after the @ sign. You need to enter the DNS for your
>POP server after the @ sign (for some ISPs the POP and SMTP server are
>the same... for others they are not, you need to find out what YOUR setup
>is).
>
>>e.g. for the account I'm trying to setup it would be:
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>right idea... but given the example here, I would say it isn't going to
>work (1: it is unlikely, even for Microsoft, that they have a DNS entry
>with the word "smtp" in it for a POP server; 2: macsmtp.mail.msn.com
>doesn't exist based on a DNS lookup, so it is unlikey to be correct in
>any event, although it might be on your isolated ISP network if they are
>not running it on an external DNS server)
>
>
>>Or should all of this be in the "User Name" field of Baton Mail?
>
>You are dealing with POP (incoming) mail, so Baton Mail shouldn't be part
>of the setup. Baton Mail assists with SMTP (outbound) mail only.
>
>-chris
><http://www.mythtech.net>
>
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