chris :

>I'm about to change the internal drive on the 9600

I wouldn't change (nor add) internal SCSI drives in my 9600 unless 
they're free, because of their price/performance/convenience ratio 
compared to IDE and FireWire: on mine I'll add an ATA controler card for 
hard drives and the FW/USB card from my 6400 to read CDs in CD-R and DVD 
drives I have in FW enclosures.

And I often strongly advise to keep old slow SCSI CD drives, because they 
are much more tolerant to bad or strange CDs. I'll always keep my Apple 
CD 300 (2x with caddy); it's the only one that reads some early audio CDs 
that make other drives sound like lawn mowers. I even regret the enormous 
1x Apple drive, I guess this one would read wooden discs.



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>Try disabling the Toast CD Reader extension. 

Be warned that recent versions of Toast may not like that. I used to 
always disable this extension, until it caused Toast to crash in some 
circumstances from version 5 or maybe 4.1.something.

In early versions of Toast the extension was only a CD driver to read CDs 
in CD burners because Apple drivers wouldn't. It was mostly useless since:
- other 3rd party drivers, some Apple drivers (7.6?), hacked Apple 
drivers, and recent Apple drivers do that too
- you could mount CDs in the burner from a menu in Toast anyways (which 
would load the driver from the app instead of at boot time)

The extension later became necessary to mount CDs from Toast too (the app 
didn't include the driver anymore, it crashed twice before I understood 
this). This menu item even disappeared since, but I wouldn't be surprised 
if the extension was now required to mount disc images from Toast too.



chris :

>So it looks like it is either the 2nd half of my 80 
>minute spindle may have something wrong with them

I would suspect bad media too. I've had mixed good and bad CD-R in the 
same box and once got strange ones that had somewhat sticky edges causing 
some drives to vibrate and fail. I returned them but they might play fine 
in other drives where the edges don't touch anything, and maybe some 
tougher drives would even "sand" the edges making them less sticky from 
then on. The offending CDs felt strange even by hand: you couldn't tell a 
difference when taken individually, but they made bizarre noises when 
manipulated in piles and would move or rotate as a whole, as their edges 
stick to each other (whereas normal CD spindles are only in contact from 
the center ring, which is slightly thicker than the actual media).


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VRic

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