On 2/22/04 5:46 AM Martin Pickering at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.

Hi Martin-
Thx so much for the advice and I will pass it on to this tech.

The "bad noise" was at start up and it was like a clicking reminding me 
of the disk spinning and hitting something.   And it would not restart by 
hitting the button on the front of the tower.   I do rehab. classes at 
the local county jail and use a program developed by a friend of mine 
(175 pages) and have been working with a Desktop Publisher friend who 
advised me to upgrade Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Adobe and 
Reader for pdfs as well as Word 98.

This put stress on memory and 8.6 I guess and so I was advised to   
upgrade from 8.6 to 9.2.2, increased memory and purchase a LaCie external 
HD, meaning I had to do a Clean Install several times and then take hours 
trying to find out what extensions from the Previous System Folder I need 
to transfer over.  Norton would get almost through with the examination 
and then stop.  I  could not afford DiskWarrior which I think Chris or 
someone here advised.

The tech. said he has not been able to boot from a CD.  But he did get it 
working once and downloaded to a CD some of my files but not all of them, 
and I don't know why.  Now he says he forgets how he got it running.  
Does not sound to me like a Certified Apple guy.

So here I sit, all my program master files are on my G3 and I have 
students all over the world needing documents.  Luckily I have some old 
ones on a CD that help get me by for a while but soon I will be starting 
new classes at the jail and will need to print out new files etc.  And I 
am held back at updating and professionalizing the program for it is 
currently a draft form.  

Strange thing is my Emailer never had a hitch all through this process.  
Boy, I sure wish they currently could make software as well as Emailer.  
No wonder we are so attached to it.

regards,
doug







>>As to my G3, well I think it is caput.  The Apple Cert. Tech here cannot 
>>get the HD up in order to transfer all my stuff to a CD and he says he 
>>has tried everything.  I noticed it made a bad noise before it crashed 
>>and I took it in.  It has been two weeks and he says he has tried Norton, 
>>DiskWarror etc. and even installed a new HD and still cannot get it 
>>working. Now he believes it might be a system board or something like 
>>that (I cannot remember the tech. term). So I don't know what to do and 
>>cannot afford a new computer at this point.
>>
>>Thank God Chris some time ago convinced me to put Email on another 
>>machine.
>>
>>regards,
>>doug
>
>(2) I've changed the title here because my response  is to  the quoted
>text and not to the original subject.
>
>A common fault is that the audio board comes loose in its  socket. All
>sorts  of  effects can  be created  by this -  including the  sound of
>breaking glass at startup. I can't comment on  "bad noise"  unless you
>describe it. I would replace the Hard Drive, make  sure all  cards are
>fully seated, boot up and reset the PRAM  then boot up  from a  CD and
>reinstall the OS. Make sure the battery is good.
>
>May I respectfully ask people to reply to  the list and  not to  cc me
>direct. These are just my observations and I don't need a reply.
>
>Martin Pickering (UK)
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