On 5/27/04, Doug McAdam wrote:

>
>What is it that you can do free Chris?  With all the emails you receive 
>and send I would think that whatever you do about SPAM it has a cost to 
>it in time and since you are in business then time is money.
>
But what I would agree with Chris on, is that the idea of charging _adds_ 
costs on top of any time or other resources to be put into efforts to 
stop spam. Very little is 'free' nowadays, so the question may be more of 
what will increase (or not increase) expense to email users.

>Also my feeling about this aberrant behavior of spammers is similar to 
>what I believe about criminal behavior in that the cause of this is the 
>lack of proper education.  Therefore we need a new approach to education, 
>one that is focused on re-education, prevention and rehabilitation and 
>which deals with the whole person, i.e. body, mind and spirit without 
>being religious.  I have such a program, body of knowledge, a holistic 
>
... <snip> ...

>The problem, as I see it, is that far too many people in our grossly 
>materialistic nation feel that technology is the answer to all our 
>problems and it is not.  Nor is money the answer.  
>

I doubt that we will ever sufficiently educate all the people who are 
sending (or in the future will send) spam. Education is not, IMO, any 
better of an answer than technology.

Actually, most of my spam that gets past my ISP's filters (and I have to 
check the Bulk mail folder for false positives every so often) nowadays 
and that I see in Emailer is from offshore sources (i.e., from countries 
outside of the U.S.). In those countries, there are fewer laws/regulation 
applying to email/spam (and therefore less restriction to their 
activities for much of any reasons).

We could have all the laws and regulations against spam here in the 
United States that we want, but all the spammers have to do is move 
outside of this country and they can continue to spam away with 
(relative) impunity.

FWIW, I have added a mail action criteria to one of my spam filters:

If Internet Header:  X-Header-Overseas
   Contains: Mail.from.Overseas.source
Then apply actions (put it in the Deleted Mail folder is what my action 
does)
Else Don't apply actions.

Haven't had it running enough to check completely yet, but this may 
replace my other filters of checking for specific country endings like 
.nl, .kr, .ru, etc.

Hope that may help someone,

Jim Rohde


Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous.

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