On 5/30/04 10:03 AM Bill McIntyre at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.

Hi Bill-

This is a complex and comprehensive subject which requires more than one 
simple email to explain but I will try my best to articulate what I mean 
by *proper education* and how it will reduce crime.  Please see my 
comments below.  This is a short email answer Bill because I do not wish 
to take up anyones bandwidth for such an indirectly related comment to 
our basic Emailer discussion purpose.  I also have a longer version I am 
sending you personally.
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>>I know Chris disagrees but I feel only proper education is going to 
>>reduce significantly these spammers. 
>
>But what does "proper education" mean? We old farts (and that includes 
>me) may rail against the constant downward slide in our society's values, 
>but people have been doing that for hundreds of years. Do you expect the 
>public education system to work a miracle on kids who's parents don't 
>model good values for them? My wife teaches advanced placement US History 
>in a high school in an upper middle class mostly white ghetto, so these 
>kids are in many ways the cream of the crop- the ones trying to get into 
>Harvard, Stanford, etc., and many of these kids will cheat on exams and 
>homework if they can get away with it.

The public education system does not have to work a miracle Bill, just do 
their job properly and they don't and have not for years.  We need 
universal and compulsory education but our system is disorganized and the 
whim of politicians and a public that has little realism.  

Think of our society as a system.  Each system has three basic 
components, i.e. Human and Material Resources perceived and utilized by 
Effective Communication.  By Communication I mean how we perceive the 
universe, the entire creation and its many components including people.  
It is obvious to any thinker that if we have race, religious, gender and 
class prejudices then we are out of touch with reality for there is 
absolutely no scientific basis for any of these terrible behaviors that 
are contrary to the very principle of nature, i.e. unity with diversity.  
Prejudice by definition is an emotional commitment to an error in 
knowledge.  Therefore it is a result of incorrect and unrealistic, even 
irrational perception (communication). This applies to crime, spamming 
and any other aberrant behavior.

>
>Eliminating spamming, cheating, stealing, etc. involves changing the 
>entire value system of a society. I don't know how that can be done, but 
>I think it will require something beyond "proper education," whatever 
>that means. All societies have always had people who exhibit anti-social 
>behavior, and no society has fixed it.

Yes, it is true that what we need is a complete overhaul of our entire 
value system.  Such a body of knowledge and its educational philosophy 
that can solve this does exist but the *powers that be*, the decision 
makers themselves, are part of the problem which blocks this kind of 
holistic education.

As I said our society is a system.  Our capital is our material and human 
resources.  What kind of businessman would deliberately destroy his own 
capital?  An irrational one for sure.  But yet here we are making all 
kinds of irrational decisions to destroy our resources.  Obviously this 
is the result of faulty education and new education and a holistic 
paradigm of existence will help remedy such a thing.

But one of the biggest barriers to the discovery and application of this 
holistic model is the belief that it is not possible for us to remedy 
such things as crime, violence, destruction of the environment or the 
achievement of world peace and unity.

I ask the following question in my Jail classes.  Is it possible us to 
achieve world peace and unity?  95% of the inmates will answer NO!  Then 
I ask them if they pray and they say yes.  When queried I find they say 
what is commonly known as the Lord's Prayer which ends with the phrase 
"Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."  I then 
ask if this be true then why do we not believe it and act like it and of 
course that leads to all sorts of discussions and disagreements that are 
very interesting.  I then point out that we here in the USA had achieved 
the highest stage of unity the world has ever seen.  We welded together 
13 separate sovereignties under the principle of federalism, a principle 
that can also be applied to the world.  We also have today, the principle 
of collective security that can be applied by the UN upon agreement of 
all nations.  However some nations want to still take things into their 
own hands and thus create even more problems.

So if we do not believe that peace and unity are achievable then we will 
not act to realize this goal.

But I have seen what this new education (reeducation) can do in both my 
students around the world in general and those incarcerated in our Jail.  
The effects would be even more dramatic should the powers that be and 
community get behind it and give the much needed support and follow up.

warmly,
doug


>
>Bill



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