Not sure what you are trying to do.  If all you want to do is see 50%
packet loss, use a higher data rate (i.e 11Mbps).  If you have to use
1Mbps, replace the 1Mbps PCR curve with positive SINR values.

kb

Kaushik B. Patel
Adjacent Link LLC


On 12/11/2015 04:59 PM, [REDACTED] wrote:
> Thanks for your respond.
> I thought by default EMANE consider some level of noise .
> is there any way to consider noise while only one communication between two
> nodes is going on and there isnt any interference  (considering some level
> of noise) ?
> I want to see for instance 50% drop packet while ping from node-a to node-b
> without any other ongoing communication that cause interference.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Kaushik B. Patel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Soroush, your RxPower (-103) is below RxSensitivity (-97) so the packets
>> are getting dropped within the PHY and not making it up to the 80211abg
>> radio model.  The negative SINR comes into play within the radio model
>> when there is noise and/or interference on the channel.  The receive
>> power must always be higher than the receiver sensitivity to make it
>> past the PHY.
>>
>> kb
>>
>> Kaushik B. Patel
>> Adjacent Link LLC
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2015 03:57 PM, [REDACTED] wrote:
>>> ok tnx. but why I'm not seeing any drop while configuring EMANE for
>>> different  pathloss .
>>> for instance this is my ieee802.11.xml and ieee802.11 NEM files which
>> I've
>>> configure . here index data rate is one and I suppose to drop %50 of
>> packet
>>> roughly  base on the PCR curve when assign pathloss of 103 .
>>> based on my calculation  :
>>>
>>> -97 = -174 + 4dB + 10log(20M)
>>> SINR = -103-(-97)
>>> SINR=-6
>>> but when I ping from node A to node B , I'm losing connection between
>>> node-a radio and node-b radio , I mean they're not reachable.
>>> actually, I'm losing connection between nodes emane0 interface if I set
>>> pathloss greater than 96 .
>>> Am I doing anything wrong ?
>>>
>>>  Thanks
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <!DOCTYPE mac SYSTEM "file:///usr/share/emane/dtd/mac.dtd">
>>> <mac library="ieee80211abgmaclayer">
>>>   <param name="mode"                  value="2"/>
>>>   <param name="enablepromiscuousmode" value="off"/>
>>>   <param name="distance"              value="1000"/>
>>>   <param name="unicastrate"           value="1"/>
>>>   <param name="multicastrate"         value="1"/>
>>>   <param name="pcrcurveuri"
>>>
>>>
>> value="file:///usr/share/emane/xml/models/mac/ieee80211abg/ieee80211pcr.xml"/>
>>>   <param name="flowcontrolenable"     value="off"/>
>>>   <param name="flowcontroltokens"     value="10"/>
>>>   <param name="radiometricenable"     value="off"/>
>>>   <param name="retrylimit0"           value="4"/>
>>>   <param name="retrylimit1"           value="4"/>
>>>   <param name="retrylimit2"           value="4"/>
>>>   <param name="retrylimit3"           value="4"/>
>>> </mac>
>>>
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <!DOCTYPE nem SYSTEM "file:///usr/share/emane/dtd/nem.dtd">
>>> <nem name="IEEE 802.11 NEM">
>>>   <transport definition="transvirtual.xml"/>
>>>   <mac definition="ieee80211abgmac.xml"/>
>>>   <phy>
>>>     <param name="fixedantennagain"         value="0.0"/>
>>>     <param name="fixedantennagainenable"   value="on"/>
>>>     <param name="bandwidth"                value="20M"/>
>>>     <param name="noisemode"                value="outofband"/>
>>>     <param name="propagationmodel"         value="precomputed"/>
>>>     <param name="systemnoisefigure"        value="4.0"/>
>>>     <param name="txpower"                  value="0.0"/>
>>>      <param name="subid"                    value="1"/>
>>>   </phy>
>>> </nem>
>>>
>>>
>>> <!-- 1Mpbs -->
>>>     <datarate index="1">
>>>       <row sinr="-9.0"  por="0.0"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-8.0"  por="1.4"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-7.0"  por="21.0"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-6.0"  por="63.5"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-5.0"  por="90.7"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-4.0"  por="98.6"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-3.0"  por="99.9"/>
>>>       <row sinr="-2.0"  por="100.0"/>
>>>     </datarate>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Steven Galgano <
>> [email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soroush,
>>>>
>>>> Please stay on list for this thread.
>>>>
>>>> That issue has been resolved for two years. Unless you are using a
>>>> version of emane prior to 0.9, you are fine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steven Galgano
>>>> Adjacent Link LLC
>>>> www.adjacentlink.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/11/2015 02:57 PM, [REDACTED] wrote:
>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>
>>>>> here is the link
>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5Bemane%5C-users%5C%5D+%5C%5Bcore%5C-users%5C%5D+which+pathloss+with+freespace+and%092ray+models%5C%3F%22&o=newest&f=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your respond .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Steven Galgano
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Soroush,
>>>>>
>>>>>     To what issue are you referring?
>>>>>
>>>>>     --
>>>>>     Steven Galgano
>>>>>     Adjacent Link LLC
>>>>>     www.adjacentlink.com <http://www.adjacentlink.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 12/11/2015 02:36 PM, [REDACTED] wrote:
>>>>>     > Hello,
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > I wonder , where may I get patch that resolve issue related to
>>>>>     pathloss
>>>>>     > for ieee80211pcr?
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > Thanks,
>>>>>     > Soroush
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     >
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