> Then use Embperl and not Java. As far as I can see
> it there is
> only one reason to use JSP at all (at least if you
> know Perl
> already): If you have an existing Codebase from a
> standalone Java
> app and just want to change the GUI layer to
> something
> web-based. Ok, and maybe some interaction between
> applets and server
> things is a little smoother with RMI if you need
> that.

Gerald's response has me considering doing production
sites in 2.  I agree that Embperl is as good for some
applications and even better for many.  However, I
need to sell my product and services.  Java and XML
are words everyone knows and associates with some kind
of revolutionary approach: the future of things.  I
know, it's just hype mostly.  I know Embperl is a fine
solution for many things.  But I need to do my work,
not be an advocate for Embperl (although I'll try).

The increasingly ubiquitous Java also can translate to
cheaper in-house or out-sourced support for a product.
 What do you suppose the ratio of Java to Embperl
programmers is?  I don't think you can count the Perl
CGI programmers out there as Embperl programmers since
they must not realize the weakness of CGI and perhaps
aren't ready to support a real web application.

Tomcat is faster than Apache 1.3+.  Once Apache 2.0 is
released and a perl interpreter can be attached, this
advantage will go away, but until then....

A common, erroneous perception of Perl in business
settings is that it is a beginners' language.  That it
is out-paced by more advanced concepts.  That it is
used by lazy, disorganized programmers who really
aren't very good at programming.  I'm not going to
defend this perception.  Obviously I don't believe it,
but it IS out there.  I have seen it.  I have had the
dismissive natured conversations with business
associates.

So Java sells.  Perl is a harder sell, often.  I want
to go with the best solution, and I think that Perl is
often that, but if I can't sell that to the client, I
lose.

The way this works out is that I sell Perl to smaller
companies.  Java sells to the smarmy, jaded IT staff
of larger companies.

Finally, I want to know more Java since it will likely
mean more money in my pocket.  I'm not all about
money, but I'm not young enough to be 100% idealist
either.  I love programming, but I want to have
rewards for the passion in addition to interesting
projects.

-Jarrod
P.S.  If anyone is interested, my site is
http://www.brickboard.com.
http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/ is an example of
an Embperl 1.3.4 application at work.

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