On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 04:18:56PM -0500, Kee Hinckley wrote: > It sometimes scares me how popular PHP has become. Aside from not > being thrilled with it in general (bastardized Perl with a weak > architecture), I also don't want to be stuck using a templating > solution that gets marginalized. (Been down that path before, for > years I used a embedded Perl solution I wrote in 1995. It's still > out there on at least one site.)
I think there are a number of interesting questions involved here: 1. Why is PHP so popular, with such an active user community? Is there anything in Embperl actually inhibiting its wider use? 2. With Embperl 2 on the horizon, is now a good time to look at how we can improve the profile of Embperl (evangelism mode), and what's the best way to go about that? Where are the gaps, what are we missing? 3. Is the fact that Perl has a whole slew of alternative templating systems similar to Embperl (e.g. HTML::Mason, HTML::Template, Apache::ASP, etc.) detrimental? Is there any way we can do about this? (I imagine they're unlikely to all merge anytime soon!) > What I was wondering was whether it might make sense to provide a > good set of migration tools so that PHP users could move to Embperl. > The new recipe system provides some of the necessary syntactic sugar. > But most important is providing all the calls that PHP provides. > Basically you want a Perl library that Embperl can load which > provides a compatible API. > > It seems to me that with a group effort, this wouldn't be terribly > hard, and would provide some useful routines for the Embperl (and > other Perl-based) community. > > Does anyone agree? Is there interest in doing this? My feeling would be that this only makes sense if people feel that the lack of an easy PHP->Embperl migration path is a significant impediment to others using Embperl. I'm more inclined to think we should be putting our effort into promoting Embperl itself - documenting and demonstrating what we can do with all Gerald's shiny new features, building and releasing libraries and toolkits and entire systems built on top of Embperl (epl-nuke anyone?). Maybe we need a showcase Embperl community site as well? Thoughts? Cheers, Gavin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
