Hi Gerald, Thanks for the advice.
What I may do is try to install again from scratch on Centos 5 and show you my errors as I go. That is, of course if you are OK with this! There seems to be a lot of virtual dedicated server companies offering Centos 5 with Plesk so I am sure others would benefit. Great you're back! Really looking forward to your latest offerings too. Maybe the community could get together and get some sort of forum/site going where we can all talk about our projects and problems? I am happy to offer hosting for this. Chris 2009/9/20 Richter, Gerald <gerald.rich...@ecos.de>: > Hi Chris, > > I think Neil has done a good explaination what can be done, so that a site > scales better. > > Regardings the installation issues. The Problem is, that because Embperl > work very close togehther with Apache and mod_perl, it needs to be compiled > with the same compiler settings as Apache and mod_perl. The point is that > not every distribution, has this information at the right place (or it is > not there at all). The Makefile.PL tries it's best to figure out which > options to use, but it does not work all the time. > > The best would be, if we had a packages maintainers for the main > distrubtions (like Debian, SUSE, RedHat etc.) which knows about their > distribution (because I do not know all the specifica of all these > distributions) > > Gerald > > > 2009/9/18 Chris Denman <chrisjden...@googlemail.com> >> >> Hi Gerald, >> >> For someone like me who is more of an enthusiast rather than expert (I >> play and use a lot of trial and error) I find installing Embperl >> really confusing. >> >> Maybe it's just me, maybe I am missing the point. But for some reason >> it can take me a few days of bashing around to get it all to work >> properly (and even then I don't think it is!). >> >> An example would be that there's a lot of virtual servers popping up >> these days. I just purchased a virtual server with CentOS 5 with >> Plesk 9 (64-bit). It took days to get Embperl working under mod_perl. >> Can't even remember exactly why as it's all a blur now! All I >> remember is that the server was all pre-installed with the very latest >> versions of Apache and mod_perl. But I would get errors everywhere. >> I would uninstall things, reinstall things. I would never be able to >> find apache source. I just think that brute force got me there in the >> end. >> >> Now I have it working, I am finding memory management temperamental. >> Mucking around with Max_Servers and so on would drive me insane. Too >> low and the server would hang whilst requests would queue up, too high >> and I'd run out of memory. Most virtual servers give you 1Mb to play >> with (with 4mb burstable, whatever that means!). >> >> Is there any master guru out there that could put together some sort >> of manual for real-life scenarios? >> >> I made a utility for Twitter that went viral for a week - my server >> took 30,000 hits in a few hours. Of course, it crashed. I went away >> and tried everything to get it working under this sort of load. Thing >> is, the traffic slowed and I'll never know if my new setup with hold >> up. Can I expect, say, 200 concurrent users on a Embperl website with >> only 1Mb of Ram? If so, what's the best Apache configuration? >> >> Sometimes I'd make one request and it'd be rapid. Then the next >> request would hang. >> >> I understand that I should have a good understanding on how everything >> works from the ground up - but if I was that good, I would have made >> my own Embperl! >> >> Please don't take any of this the wrong way - I absolutely LOVE Embper >> (I can't code anymore without it!). That's why I get so frustrated >> when I can't get it all working right. I can see the potential - but >> can never seem to find it. >> >> Can't wait for any new versions....! >> >> Chris Denman >> >> >> 2009/9/18 Richter, Gerald <rich...@ecos.de>: >> > >> > >> > 2009/9/17 Michael Stevens <michael.stev...@dianomi.com> >> >> >> >> Gerald, >> >> >> >> I've attached my diff below. It's mainly from the previous mailing list >> >> post: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hoping to see a new release soon? >> > >> > Thanks for the patch. I have now not so much workload anymore and hope >> > to >> > get out a new version during the next weeks. >> > >> > The main work is, that it not only have to work with the newest version >> > of >> > Perl , mod_perl and Apache, but with a lot of older versions and >> > combinations of them >> > >> > Gerald >> > >> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscr...@perl.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-h...@perl.apache.org
