I can see on the list archive that Gerald apparently replied to my question about [$ hidden $] back in August. I never received a copy of his message. I do recieve some emails from the list, which suggests that I am in fact still on it, in some way at least, but I have no idea why I would receive some messages from it, but not others. I don't have any Spamassassin milter active in my Sendmail config. It's very straightforward and goes straight through to my email client, Thunderbird, which as I said previously has a filter to put messages from the Embperl list into a folder prior to spam classification. So I don't know why I wouldn't be getting some of those embperl messages. Is it possibly an issue on the sending side? Or could it be my problem, I don't seem to have any issues with emails from dozens or hundreds of other sources. I don't know, and like I said I am tired of trying to sort this out. I'm tired of people blaming me for something I have no idea about, I get some messages but not others. I am tired of the lack of support that Embperl has had over the last few years. I am tired of everything, and I don't think I am going to continue with this list as I don't need yet another source of aggravation pointing fingers at me. Bye now.

On 11/19/23 23:35, Michael Smith wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>>
Date: Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: Embperl 3.0.0-rc.1 is released
To: Neil Gunton <n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com>>, Michael Smith <michael.sm...@dianomi.com <mailto:michael.sm...@dianomi.com>> Cc: Ruben Safir <ru...@mrbrklyn.com <mailto:ru...@mrbrklyn.com>>, Jim Tappe <jta...@gmail.com <mailto:jta...@gmail.com>>, <embperl@perl.apache.org <mailto:embperl@perl.apache.org>>


Hi Neil,

I have answered ALL your mails. Nobody has blocked you. There is only one mailing list and as I already wrote embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io> is my personal mail account. See

https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-embperl <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/perl-embperl>

Regards

Gerald

P.S. @Michael, just in case Neil doesn't get mail I send from embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>, could you please forward this mail to him. Thanks!

> Neil Gunton <n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com>> hat am 19.11.2023 22:34 CET geschrieben:
 >
 >
 > I run my own mail server and I have filters on my client (Thunderbird)
 > that put messages from the list into the appropriate folder before the
 > spam filters are applied. I also check my spam folder every day for
 > false positives. Since I do get some messages from the list, like this
 > latest one, and I don't have any spam modules installed in my Sendmail
 > (e.g. Spamassassin), there shouldn't be any reason why I wouldn't be
 > getting these emails.
 >
 > I have been assuming that I've been frozen out of this community for
 > some reason, since I ask questions (like I've asked before about this
> other email list, "actevy.io <http://actevy.io>") and nobody replied. So that's sad, since
 > I am a heavy user of Embperl, and I feel like either the tool has been
 > abandoned, or else I have been for whatever reason. To be honest I
 > stopped trying to communicate here, since I never seem to get any
 > responses and then when something does come through, it seems to be via
 > someone else who cc'd me. I don't know, and I'm close to not caring any
 > more to be honest.
 >
 > Neil
 >
 > On 11/19/23 13:19, Michael Smith wrote:
 > > Hi Neil
 > >
 > > I think everyone else on the list is getting all these emails. So I'm
> > pretty sure everything is working fine but perhaps there is an issue on
 > > your end?
 > >
 > > Have you checked your spam and filters?
 > >
 > > Can't be much more help than that I'm afraid.
 > >
 > > Michael
 > >
 > >
 > >
> > On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, 20:20 Neil Gunton, <n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com>
 > > <mailto:n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com>>> wrote:
 > >
 > >     I don't know what is going on with this list, but I never got this
> >     message that is quoted from Gerald. Are there two email lists? Where is
 > >     the other one, and how do I sign up for it?
 > >
> >     I didn't even know there was an rc.2 release candidate. Could someone > >     please tell me what is going on, I have asked before but got no answer.
 > >
 > >     Thanks,
 > >
 > >     Neil
 > >
 > >     On 11/19/23 10:23, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >      > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 07:35:30PM +0100, embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>
 > >     <mailto:embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>> wrote:
 > >      >> Hi Neil,
 > >      >>
> >      >> were you able to verify that Embperl rc.2 fixes this test issue?
 > >      >>
 > >      >> Would be great to get some feedback, so I can prepare the final
 > >     release of Embperl 3.0.0 and upload it to CPAN.
 > >      >>
 > >      >> Thanks & Regards
 > >      >>
 > >      >> Gerald
 > >      >>
 > >      >
 > >      >
 > >      > Gerald Ricter?
 > >      >>
> >      >>> Neil Gunton <n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com> <mailto:n...@nilspace.com <mailto:n...@nilspace.com>>> hat
 > >     am 05.10.2023 18:32 CEST geschrieben:
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>> On Devuan release (Daedalus, based on Debian bookworm minus
 > >     systemd),
 > >      >>> the new release compiles ok, albeit with some warnings (let me
 > >     know if
 > >      >>> the warnings would be useful).
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>> make test gives this error, same as what happens on Embperl
 > >     that ships
 > >      >>> with Debian:
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>> #115 includeerr2.htm...
 > >      >>> Error in Line 1
 > >      >>> Is: <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Embperl Error</TITLE></HEAD><BODY
 > >     bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
 > >      >>> Should:     <EOF>
 > >      >>> Input:              test/html/includeerr2.htm
 > >      >>> Output:             test/tmp/out.htm
 > >      >>> Compared to:        test/cmp/includeerr2.htm520
 > >      >>> Log:                test/tmp/test.log
 > >      >>> Testparameter:
 > >      >>>     cmpext = 520
 > >      >>>     version = 2
 > >      >>>     condition = $] >= 5.019400
 > >      >>>     repeat = 2
 > >      >>>     errors = 7
 > >      >>>
> >      >>>    ERRORS detected! NOT all tests have been passed successfully
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>> cat: test/tmp/httpd.pid: No such file or directory
 > >      >>> make: *** [Makefile:1468: test_dynamic] Error 1
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>>
 > >      >>> On 10/5/23 09:00, Jim Tappe wrote:
 > >      >>>> Wow, Thank you!
 > >      >>>>
> >      >>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:52 PM <embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>
 > >     <mailto:embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>>
> >      >>>> <mailto:embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io> <mailto:embp...@actevy.io <mailto:embp...@actevy.io>>>> wrote:
 > >      >>>>
 > >      >>>>      __
 > >      >>>>      I am happy to anounnce Embperl 3.0.0. It is the first
 > >     release after
> >      >>>>      8 years and it brings Embperl up to date with current linux
 > >      >>>>      distributions and software.
 > >      >>>>
> >      >>>>      This is the first release candidate. Please give it a try
 > >     and and
 > >      >>>>      send feedback to the Embperl mailinglist.
 > >      >>>>      The release candidate is available from
> >      >>>> https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz> > >     <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>> > >      >>>> <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz> > >     <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz <https://www.embperl.org/downloads/Embperl-3.0.0_1.tar.gz>>>
 > >      >>>>      For installation instructions see INSTALL.pod
 > >      >>>>
> >      >>>>      The release mainly incoporates the patches for Debian and
 > >     for Fedora
 > >      >>>>      based systems.
 > >      >>>>      It also includes some small fixes from myself.
 > >      >>>>
 > >      >>>>      There are no new features for Embperl itself in this
 > >     release, but
 > >      >>>>      Embperl::Form has a lot of enhancements. If you use
 > >     Embperl::Form,
 > >      >>>>      please test before use.
 > >      >>>>
 > >      >>>>      I like to thank all the people who have continually put
 > >     work into
 > >      >>>>      Embperl:
 > >      >>>>      - The Debian Perl Group, especially Dominic Hargreaves,
 > >     Florian
 > >      >>>>      Schlichting and Axel Beckert
 > >      >>>>      - Marcus Doemling for the Fedora patches
 > >      >>>>      and others.
> >      >>>>      Please note the webiste at www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org> > >     <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>> <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>
 > >     <http://www.embperl.org <http://www.embperl.org>>>
 > >      >>>>      has also been updated to reflect the update.
> > perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl> <http://perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>> > >      >>>>      <http://perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl> > >     <http://perl.apache.org/embperl <http://perl.apache.org/embperl>>> is not yet updated, but will be soon.
 > >      >>>>      Changes in 3.0.0-rc.1  31. Sept 2023
 > >      >>>>
 > >      >>>>           - Apply debian patches
 > >      >>>>
> >     (https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/ <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/> > >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/ <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>>
 > >      >>>>
> >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/ <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/> > >     <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/ <https://sources.debian.org/patches/libembperl-perl/2.5.0-17/>>>).
 > >      >>>>             Thanks to the Debian Perl Group, especially
 > >     Dominic Hargreaves,
 > >      >>>>             Florian Schlichting and Axel Beckert
 > >      >>>>           - Apply patches for fedora
 > >      >>>>
> >     (https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>> > >      >>>> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148621>>> and > >      >>>> https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>> > >      >>>> <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702> > >     <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702 <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=148702>>>)
 > >      >>>>             Thanks to Marcus Doemling
> >      >>>>           - Fixed compilation/Makefile of/for libxml2 and libxslt > >      >>>>           - Fixed warnings about undefined values in log. Note
 > >     this
 > >      >>>>             is done by goning back to the old behaviour, were
> >      >>>>             using uninitialized values were not a warning. So if > >      >>>>             you like to have warnings about uninitialized values > >      >>>>             add [* use warnings "uninitialized" *] to your code.
 > >      >>>>           - Add a lot of enhancements to Embperl::Form
 > >      >>>>
 > >      >>
 > >      >>
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