I will repeat what Steve said.
Thanks for all the work on this.
I will never use that particular interface probably, but I like that
there will be a wide and full support for many computer-to-machine
interfaces.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephen Wille Padnos wrote:
>  > Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
>  >
>  >> Hi JMKasunich and SWPadnos, would you mind if I added support for the
>  >> 7i43 (EPP) board to bfload?  The structure of bfload makes it look like
>  >> it could be done pretty cleanly.
>  >>
>  >>
>  > I have no objection to adding that functionality.  One question about
>  > programming via parallel - can you detect the chip type over that
>  > interface?  For PCI boards, we can use the PCI enumeration functions to
>  > look for known board IDs, and refuse to program if either the correct
>  > board type isn't found (like 5i20 vs 5i22), or if the correct FPGA isn't
>  > found, based on the type in the bitfle.  Basically bfload is "safe"
>  > right now - you can't program some other manufacturer's board, and you
>  > can't load a bitfile into a chip it wasn't meant for.  If this is still
>  > possible with the parallel port programming scheme, then I'm all for
>  > adding it.  If not, then I'm still mostly for it, but would have some
>  > concerns about how to do it right :)
>
>  I share your concern.  I don't think it can be done perfectly, even in
>  the PCI world, but I have a proposal for making it as safe as I think it
>  can.
>
>
>  First the EPP situation...
>
>  You can not reliably detect the 7i43 over the EPP port, but if there
>  *is* a 7i43 on the EPP port you're using, you can tell if the
>  firmware-sending worked.
>
>  My plan was to force the user to provide (on the command-line) the io
>  address of the EPP port they want to use -- this would be the same as
>  the io address they give to the HAL driver when they load that, next.
>  Something like this maybe:
>
>      bfload 7i43:0x378=SV8.BIT
>
>
>  Now for some wrinkles in the PCI world...
>
>  Currently bfload is called like this:
>
>      bfload Firmware [BoardNum]
>
>  It inspects the firmware to determine the FPGA it's for, and then looks
>  for the BoardNum'th PCI board in the system that has that kind of FPGA.
>   This scheme works well for the set of devices currently supported
>  (5i20, 5i22-1, and 5i22-1.5), since the three devices all use different
>  FPGAs.  It won't work so well if we want to add support for some of the
>  other PCI-like Anything I/O boards which use the same FPGAs.  The user
>  would have to know which FPGA is on which board.
>
>  I'm proposing instead to change the command-line syntax to something
>  like this:
>
>      bfload BoardType[:BoardId]=FirmwareFile
>
>  The BoardType would be one of the supported board names, such as 5i20,
>  5i22-1, 4i68, 7i43, etc.  For the PCI boards, BoardID would be like the
>  current BoardNum, but only counting within the specified board type.
>  For the EPP board, the BoardID would be the io address of the EPP port
>  (which uniquely identifies the board on the system).  So the usage would
>  look like this:
>
>      # omitted the BoardID, defaults to 0
>      bfload 5i20=SV12.BIT
>
>      # one firmware on the first 5i22-1.5, another on the second
>      bfload 5i22-1.5:0=SV16.BIT 5i22-1.5:1=SVST8_8.BIT
>
>      # different firmwares on different board types
>      bfload 5i20:0=SV12.BIT 7i34:0x378=SV8.BIT
>
>  This seems a little clearer to use, and a bit more flexible.  bfload
>  will do what verification it can: matching the requested firmware file
>  to the requested board when possible, and trusting the user when the
>  situation is ambiguous (4i68, 7i43).
>
>
>
>  --
>  Sebastian Kuzminsky
>  If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
>  tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it.  -- Henry Ford
>
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