On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:35 AM, andy pugh <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 4 June 2013 10:13, Michael Haberler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Until we have that - an appeal to folks asking questions: please
> consider the fact that developers dont stand behind you, and dont have a
> crystal ball or telepathic qualities.
>
> Oh yes. The number of people who say "And then LinuxCNC crashes with
> an error" without mentioning what the error is.
>
> The info that is printed to screen when LinuxCNC fails to start is
> probably a good beginning point. Thinking about that report some more,
> perhaps we could change the order that the info it printed in?
>
> Typically the problem is clearly stated in the text dump, but you have
> to scroll to the middle to find it. Perhaps the "Debug File
> Information" should be first, then the other stuff?
>
>
I've long thought such a report was needed, something analogous to the
reports that are prepared and passed around for malware detection. I never
got out of the starting gate because I couldn't answer the musical
question, how much information is enough?

I wish I could agree with Andy that "[t]ypically, the problem is clearly
stated in the text dump..." but in my playing around with LinuxCNC I seem
to create atypical situations (take the "package require Linuxcnc" error
that stumped me for a bit last night), which makes a more comprehensive
reporting scheme an attractive proposition.

Next challenge: out of our collective wisdom, write a program to analyze
the reported information:-)

Regards,
Kent
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