I suspect the bigger problem will be having it done in the next two weeks. Dave
On 3/9/2014 5:50 PM, Michael Chism wrote: > Great analogy, but is anyone willing to come to Pensacola Florida? The > weather is awesome! :) > >> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:48:49 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tree VMC tool changer help >> >> There is a certain point where any person or persons you get to help, >> will spend so much time "trying things" and explaining things with you >> (which you said you don't want to learn) that it would make more sense >> to have your "help" just travel there and do it, rather than do a "try >> and repeat" over and over again remotely. If you had a month or more to >> do this job and rely on casual assistance, it would be one thing. But >> that is not your situation. >> >> Here's an attempt at an analogy: >> You are obviously familiar with machine tools. Say that a shop owner >> (a one man shop) was on vacation and he got a call that a set of parts >> needed to be made in his shop right away. The part blueprints and >> materials are delivered to the shop. The shop owners cousin is >> available and lives near the shop but has never run a machine tool >> before. The shop owner convinces him to work in the shop and run the >> machines and make the parts while he tells him what to do over the phone >> and via email. Another issue, the cousin can't read blueprints. >> Last issue, this is a sizable job and it would take the shop owner 2 >> weeks to to the job. The cousin has two weeks to complete the same job. >> >> Dave >> >> >> On 3/9/2014 3:04 PM, Michael Chism wrote: >>> Hi Dave, yes mesa 5i25 and 7i77, >>> I really cant understand why its so difficult.... :( I am willing to do >>> everything that needs to be done on my side including trying and trying >>> files over and over.... >>>> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 01:15:01 -0500 >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tree VMC tool changer help >>>> >>>> On 3/8/2014 11:46 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>>>> On 03/08/2014 07:41 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >>>>>> I am not clear just where you are in your project. You mentioned two >>>>>> weeks >>>>>> but is that two weeks from now or two weeks from when you start? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> After looking at the manuals, my first guess is that the changer control >>>>> is built into the main controller so LinuxCNC will need to do low level >>>>> control. Also it looks like the carousel uses a servo motor and high >>>>> count encoder like a regular axis. I have used a Limit2 (3?) component >>>>> to good effect on my carousel but I haven't completed that project, so I >>>>> can't put that feather in my cap yet. The spindle orientation hasn't >>>>> become obvious yet. I'm tending to think two weeks to get the changer >>>>> working would be optimistic. If it were my machine, I might get the draw >>>>> bar to operate first, then if time runs out, parts could still be made >>>>> with manual loading. >>>>> >>>>> This looks like a capable machine as is, is the controller completely >>>>> dead? >>>> If there is a servo in there I can't see that being done without someone >>>> onsite unless someone has a LOT of time to try and work through it >>>> remotely (warning -painful!). The limit3 works fine for machine motion. >>>> I have limit3s running a high speed bottle packaging machine and it >>>> has been running for a couple of years with no problems. CL is >>>> great for state machines since it is relatively easy to debug live. >>>> But that means that the changer will require Hal and CL and that is >>>> going to get complex. Someone needs to camp out there for some time to >>>> build the software and debug the changer one step at a time. Either >>>> that, or ship the machine to the person/company doing the software if >>>> there is a bunch of other work to do also - as in changeout the controls >>>> and rewire the machine. >>>> What hardware are you using to control the machine? Mesa boards? >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to >>>> Perforce. >>>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. 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