On Tuesday 22 December 2015 04:46:35 Dave Caroline wrote:

> Dont forget the if it aint broke principle, some users will not have
> upgraded therefore not found it, even some providers get to a working
> setup and stick to that version.

Let me put my toothpick sized oar into this water.

There is always that, and I for one fail to understand the logic behind 
that other than the inconvenience and quite nominal cost perhaps of 
stringing the cat5/6 it takes to network the machines to the houses 
hub/switch.

I can't imagine doing without it. When I sit down to write or run code, 
the first thing I do is spend nominally 5 minutes running synaptic to 
make sure I have the latest LCNC, 2 or 3 times a week in some cases.

Running 2.7.3 sim here, and 2.8-pre on the working machines because I 
can, no 2.8-pre so far has created a problem for me that wasn't 99.9% 
PEBKAC, and I have learned several new techniques that in the long view, 
have shrunk the time from concept to working code when the code, except 
the output translation from eagle & pcb-gcode, comes entirely from my 
mind and fingers, although often with help from arcbuddy and its git and 
cousins.

In any event if someone useing the removed interfaces does decide to 
update and finds that dynasoar missing, I think rather than scrambling 
to make the old code run again, we should extend all the help and advice 
needed in making the switch to the newer gui's as painless for them as 
it is possible to do. I personally started with the tkinter based gui 
because thats what the first BDI install setup.  But I was not more than 
a week switching to axis when it was announced, and I have no looked 
back at the tkinter blue screen with any hint of nostalgia.

> eg http://www.sherline.com/8400pg.htm still states EMC2

That page has to be obsolete by at least half a decade as no linux will 
now run with only 256 megs of ram, and run well.  It is also Sherlines 
responsibility I think.

> Dave Caroline
>
> On 22/12/2015, Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Well that seems easy in this case. It's been seriously broken for 6
> > years.not a peep from anyone.
> >
> > Chris M
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "EBo" <e...@sandien.com>
> > To: <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Subject: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick and mini
> > guis Date: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 1:02 AM
> >
> > On Dec 21 2015 11:10 PM, Chris Morley wrote:
> >>> To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> From: dgarr...@panix.com
> >>> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:33:57 +0000
> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick
> >>> and mini guis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It doesn't seem productive or motivational to ask users wanting
> >>> a joints_axes merge to wait to accommodate fixing and updating
> >>> code that no one uses.
> >>
> >> I tend to agree. I would humbly suggest:
> >> - pulling it out (as you did)
> >> - leave it out when merging JA to master
> >> - at that point if someone feels they want it, it can be added
> >> again.
> >>
> >> I'm a little afraid we will release too soon after JA is merged.
> >> or the opposite have to wait 2 more years to fix all the little
> >> bugs. The sooner JA is merged the better (I'm sure you know that).
> >> I'm willing to bet as soon as it's merged more people will work on
> >> it.
> >> Thanks for your diligent and determined work!
> >
> > the problem as always is identifying code that no one uses.

Haven't we already had the 6 years you quoted, to identify what no one is 
acutally using on a day to day basis? ISTM thats more than long enough.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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