Neil , their are big people as you call it using linuxcnc , and their are some of us that cater for the Industrial user & big users . ( on a paid basis unfortunatly , i may add ) as reconfiguring or designing it's use for specific machines is no mean task , and yes if we can we do add it back into the mainstream ,
it's extremely difficult to cater for everyone As ken states list your requirements and you never know . it all depends on how far you wish to go , or how committed you are to needing it . On 25 December 2015 at 12:34, Kenneth Lerman <ler...@se-ltd.com> wrote: > The "standard" answer is that if you want it to look more like a commercial > CNC machine you can do that. > > It's simply a matter of programming. 😀 > > I suggest that you start by defining the requirements. When I added o-words > and named parameters to the interpreter I started by defining the > requirements and discussed possible designs on the list and the wiki. That > generated some useful feedback. > > It might be useful to define the requirements even if you are not a > programmer. Who knows, you might find someone with similar requirements who > can do the programming. > > Regards, > > Ken > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Neil Whelchel <neilwhelc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello Dave, > > I simply can not afford to have a machine idle while I use an "app" on > it. > > If it is not running, it is not making money. If I am editing a program, > > someone else is using the machine to make things. There are plenty of > small > > shops and "one man bands" that use a desktop computer for CAD/CAM, and > > editing, then they upload the program to a machine to make the part. I, > for > > one do not like to be sitting in the middle of a workshop in an awkward > > position to see a small display mounted to the side of a 5,000 pound > > machine to write G-code, when I can do it from the comfort of my desk in > my > > office. > > Also, we are right back to if I am running something like an "app" on the > > machine, a keyboard and such is required, and I am not about to put a > > keyboard on a machine, the coolant and chips would kill it before there > is > > time to use it for anything. > > I can understand why some hobbyists would want to use the computer on > their > > machine to do other things than run the machine, but that is not the > scope > > I am talking about here. Most of the people I have running machines, just > > want to load up the fixtures with stock, push the "go" button, and take a > > part out. The only time that they end up doing anything else is when they > > break something, or change to another part. > > By adding "apps" to the machine, it is detracting from its simplicity of > > use to the machine operator. More moving parts, more to break. > > The big problem I see with the Linuxcnc project is that its maturation > into > > the real world is limited (more like blocked) by steering from hobbyists. > > Under the hood Linuxcnc is a marvel of fantastic software engineering > that > > is far superior to many professional controllers, and if it was treated > as > > such would give the mega bucks commercial controllers a big challenge in > > the marketplace. All it is going to take is a "big" machine company to > > adopt it... This will NOT happen in its current state because it is still > > dressed like a toy. There is nothing wrong with this either. If you look > at > > my original post, what I am getting at is that Linuxcnc needs both. It > > needs a toy wrapper for hobbyists, and it needs a tool wrapper for people > > that want to use it as a tool. What I am saying is that there seems to > be a > > push for it to be a toy when under the hood it is far better than most > > tools. I am wondering why there is not much (any) push from within to > make > > a tool out of it while not detracting from its ability to be a toy. > > -Neil- > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Dave Caroline < > > dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > My main "app" is an editor I sit on the machine and edit the code to > > > make the item, others use things such as dxf2gcode. > > > > > > I am one of many who are one man bands making stuff in various ways on > > > various machines, three of mine are Linuxcnc, the hobbing machine has > > > a screen to set up gear cutting, the mill has edited gcode which is > > > designed at the same time as the fixture is set up, and a lathe > > > usually used in mdi mode. > > > > > > This kind of flexibility is missing on machines made for "operators". > > > > > > Dave Caroline > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > -- > Kenneth Lerman > 55 Main Street > Newtown, CT 06470 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > -- The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. 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