On Tuesday 18 July 2017 01:38:26 Chris Morley wrote:

> Gladevcp does not work with GTK3.When GTK switched to GTK3, the GLADE
> editor also change formats.
>
> So one must add the backported GTK2 style GLADE editor too. For wheezy
> we have a package IIRC. For Jessy I'm not sure if its available or
> must be built.
>
So on wheezy, it looks like the editor I want to use is glade-gtk2. And 
it looks like its working.

> So your wheezy machines can use gladevcp but you must use the proper
> GLADE editor or you would not see the added widgets.
>
> Gladevcp panels using GTK2 will continue to work for a long time, it's
> the GLADE editor that's the real problem.
>
> Chris M

Thank you, Chris. Its apparent I was running the wrong editor. I'll have 
to explore this. I do not know if the pi/jessie has it though. Looks to 
be no, unless the name was changed:

pi@picncsheldon:~ $ sudo apt install glade-gtk2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package glade-gtk2

So on that machine I've done it all with pyvcp and xml. One of the things 
I could use if it existed was a clickable led with 2 hal inputs and one 
output (so its clickable) with 3 colors. The pushbuttons to enable the 
dials are hard to push and have considerable travel before actually 
hitting the switch, then it takes another 3 or 4 pounds to actually 
actuate them.

When I went looking for a switch, it was either that one, or about a 
million various colors of gameing pushbuttons, all needing more than a 
square inch of panel space to mount them, max panel thickness in the 
1/8" range (this one is 1/2" thick) and a light bulb wired across the 
contacts.

Doorbell buttons would have worked, but I put 150 miles on the GMC 
looking for one I could remove the ^%#%& light bulb from without 
demolishing it. I tried burning it out once, left a conductive coating 
on the inside of the glass. Poison for logic circuits.

It looks like qt won the gui war. On the armhf jessie install:

sudo apt list *qt*|wc -l
697

So where do you start?  Or is there, buried in 697 lines of *qt*, a qt 
designer?

Sort of:
qt4-designer/oldstable 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3+deb8u1+rpi1 armhf

But I don't see a qt5-designer in that list. And the qt4 version has at 
least 3 missing dependencies according to aptitude.

I don't envy the task at hand, Chris.  It looks like 2 months worth of 
work on the system itself before its in shape to attack the missing gui 
tools. Good luck, and thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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