On Sunday 14 June 2020 09:28:29 Julian Wingert wrote:

> And you can bet your bottom dollar there are hundreds of others
> willing to pay. Question is how we keep this project from being ripped
> apart. Because we sure as hell will have some who are afraid of
> commercial involvement.
>
> Julian

There is always that possibility.  And it cannot be eradicated as long as 
there is an MBA.

One of the elephants in the room (as I see it anyway) is the legal 
liability the US legal system forces on anyone in a seat of power. That 
is generally avoided by not having anyone in a position of being able to 
write a check.

Anyone with questions should study this projects history from its 
origination at NIST.  Its mandated, legally public domain but largely if 
not 100% rewritten under the gpl in the decades since because of the 
gpl's legal protections.

I don't think that will ever change simply because the legal folks that 
pass these laws don't want anything that might make it easier to 
actually have competition.

Convinceing your "by the people" folks to give projects such as this, the 
same legal protections afforded the commercial world, would be a great 
first step.  But the MBA's among them will never allow that for the same 
reason they demand that all your machines run windows, because then if 
it doesn't work, they have someone with deep pockets to sue, God forbid 
an MBA actually being personally responsible for the choices he makes.

My $0.02, please adjust for inflation since 1934.

> On 14 June 2020 15:22:07 CEST, Stefan Asmus <stefanasmu...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:
> >I am not a developer (well I will try on some projects in the near
> >future), But I have used PlasmaC on my industrial plasma machine I
> >designed and built. I spent close to $40K AUD on the build and I if I
> >wanted to use a commercial plasma software, the Hypertherm software
> >controller I was quoted was close to $30K for just a controller and
> > the software.
> >
> >LinuxCNC has opened a whole new world of possibilities for me as far
> > as what can be done relatively cheaply.  If you follow the plasma
> > forum section you will see posts of what I use my machine for on a
> > daily basis. LinuxCNC has made that possible.
> >
> >In the future I would like to sponsor some development. I plan to
> >design and build six axis welding robots. I am sure if will be
> > possible with LinuxCNC, I just need to get some parts of the
> > software set up to do what I want. If there was a system in place
> > for paid developer work I will surely consider investing in it.
> >
> >From: N<mailto:nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:12 PM
> >To: EMC developers<mailto:emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation
> >
> >> Moin! (north german hello)
> >>
> >> I would like to add some thoughts.
> >>
> >> 1. Releases are a must have. Think about someone having a 10000
> >
> >Dollar Maschine being brocken by a Bug. I for myself am very cautious
> >about testing new versions, as my machine has 2x 2KW servos on
> > y-axis, easy able to tear the machine apart...
> >
> >If you do not want to take the risk you do not have to. If you have a
> >10000 Dollar machine maybe it's worth spending some money on
> > commercial control system, maybe they are more responsible.
> >
> >> 2. If there are spenders, bring them on. What about a patreon for
> >
> >lcnc? And payment is done in 3 tiles, one in advance, one
> > @integration and one @release. We make a list of open things, define
> > a price and publish them. I for myself would be OK with the one
> > organizing getting paid for his work.
> >
> >Might be a good idea but I do currently not know anything I am
> > prepared to pay for to get done except maybe a little bit of money.
> >
> >
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