> On 1 Dec 2022, at 10:27 am, Steffen Moeller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 30.11.2022 um 19:12 schrieb Chris Morley:
>> The difference is free cad doesn't compete with anything in linuxcnc. Qtpycp 
>> does. If they wanted to be included in linuxcnc, then they would have been 
>> part of the project. They made a choice.
>> Otherwise as I said you are undermining the hard work of the devs that are 
>> active in our project.
> 
> I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am
> agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if
> PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some
> encouragement and ideas on how to improve and vice versa. Both GUIs
> should be as easy to install and use as possible.
Neither QtVCP nor QtPyVCP are GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating GUIS.
I would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the GUIs 
that have been developed.

> 
> Best,
> Steffen
> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Steffen Moeller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
>> Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
>> To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new 
>> German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>> 
>> 
>> Am 29.11.2022 um 19:06 schrieb Chris Morley:
>>> Are you discussing an official linuxcnc release of ISOs?
>> So I hope.
>>> Are you suggesting including qtpyvcp on the ISO?
>> There are four Python modules missing in Debian to do so, from what I
>> have yet understood. But I feel motivated to help out, just locally
>> packaged oyaml.
>>> In my mind that undermines qtvcp which is actually part of linuxcnc.
>>> Full disclosure, qtvcp is project I started so I am slightly biased.
>> My motivation is to bring the best of Open Source CNC on Linux together
>> to help myself and others. And from what I hear and see, this includes
>> PyQtVCP. You may have a point for the minimal version of that .iso, but
>> for the full featured one it should be in, also FreeCAD and inkscape.
>> 
>> Steffen
>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Steffen Möller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
>>> Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German 
>>> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes 
>>> the Sinumeric control
>>> https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
>>> with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for 
>>> what I saw from https://www.qtpyvcp.com/ .
>>> 
>>> When we yesterday had this OpenMike session again, we had felt like there 
>>> should be four USB sticks prepared:
>>>    a) for two distros - Bullseye (Debian stable) and Bookworm (Debian 
>>> testing, soon stable)
>>>    b) in two flavours - minimalistic and fully-featured (including FreeCAD 
>>> and Inkscape to make a good impression on those who come from the other OS)
>>> 
>>> Andy had some confidence (and I share that) that the generation of those 
>>> .iso files per se is not difficult. It was not immediately clear where the 
>>> generation of those .iso files should happen, but the builders maintained 
>>> by Sebastian are a likely target IMO.
>>> 
>>> Question: Is there anybody out there who would like to work with me on a 
>>> description and implementation of what the fully-featured .ISO should like 
>>> alike? This would be Intel-only as a start, leaving everything for the RPi 
>>> to Raspbian for the time being.
>>> 
>>> There are a couple of Python libraries still missing on Debian to get 
>>> QtPyVCP installed. This would likely be something for me to address.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Steffem
>>> 
>>> 
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