RE>>Above and Below 11/7/96
One would like to add that in the case of a problem with Telecom and ITE equipment(and probably other products) the EC is re-focussing upon an even older Directive 85/374/EEC ( OJ L 210 Volume 28 dated 7-8-85) to which I give the short title "The product liability Directive". The intention is to use the National Laws introduced by 1988 in all EC countries to make producers liable for damage caused by defects in his/her product. Recommended reading for lawyers and manufacturers. This is referred to in the draft proposals for the yet to be seen CTE Directive. Jerry Roberton -------------------------------------- List-Post: [email protected] Date: 10/7/96 10:00 am To: Jerry Roberton From: [email protected] Item Subject: Above and Below Received: from hpcc01.corp.hp.com by hpcc08.corp.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA270990653; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:10:54 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com by hpcc01.corp.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA028740649; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:10:50 -0700 Received: from ruebert.ieee.org by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA264070649; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:10:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by ruebert.ieee.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15799 for emc-pstc-list; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:50:45 -0400 (EDT) List-Post: [email protected] Date: 10 Jul 96 05:43:52 EDT From: "Victor L. Boersma" <[email protected]> To: EMC-PSTC <[email protected]> Subject: Above and Below Message-Id: <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Victor L. Boersma" <[email protected]> X-Resent-To: Multiple Recipients <[email protected]> X-Listname: emc-pstc X-List-Description: Product Safety Tech. Committee, EMC Society X-Info: Help requests to [email protected] X-Info: [Un]Subscribe requests to [email protected] X-Moderator-Address: [email protected] ....................................................................... Item Subject: Above and Below Hello Vic, In the absence of specific European Community provisions governing the safety of a product, the General Product Safety Directive (92/59/EEC) prevails. Your market may already dictate that you have to apply the LVD and hence EN 60950 for ITE. See what the competition is doing. However, to play it safe, at least apply the LVD and IEC 950 for the cases below and investigate the safety mechanisms for high voltage. You could apply other standards like IEC 1010-1. However, the bottom line is to always make the product safe. You don't always need a standard to verify this. Using common sense is a good way to accomplish this. Regards, Ron Wellman +============================================================+ |Ronald R. Wellman |Corporate Quality Department| |Hewlett-Packard Company |External Product Regulations| |Product Processes Organization |Voice : 415-857-6059 | |1501 Page Mill Road, MS 5UL |FAX : 415-857-6340 | |Palo Alto, California 94304 USA|E-Mail: [email protected] | +============================================================+ | "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by | | age eighteen." - Albert Einstein | +============================================================+ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Above and Below Author:Non-HP-owner-emc-pstc ([email protected]) at HP-Palo Alto,shargw3 List-Post: [email protected] Date:7/10/96 2:43 AM Interesting question came up at the EU seminar yesterday in Toronto, where nobody really was able to give a definitive answer. Questions comes in an EU related version and in a general version. What are the regulatory requirements for a device that has a "rated voltage" below the limits of the LVD, but has inside voltages that are: (a) within the scope of the LVD (b) higher than the scope of the LVD What are the requirements for a device that has a "rated voltage" below the limits of IEC-950, bust has inside voltages that are: (a) within the scope of IEC-950 (b) higher than the scope of IEC-950 We all knew the common-sense answer, but common sense is nothing than the sum total of what you've learned before age 18 (I believe). Off for San Jose now. 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