Hello everyone!
I think that Paul SHOULD be right when he says "only complaints due to bad
influences on (interference) or influences from (immunity) other products have
to be taken in consideration for control of conformity to the rules".
Conformity with the technical requirements of a standard is neither necessary
nor sufficient to demonstrate compliance with the protection requirements of the
Directive. UNFORTUNATELY, it is LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to PROVE compliance with
the Directive, so conformity with a standard is taken as equivalent. this then
raises all sorts of difficulties with updated versions of standards, etc., which
the simplicity of the Directive's protection requirements avoids completely.
I think that Paul is wrong when he says "the basic and general purpose of the
EMC rules (is):
- Protection against pollution and
- Assurance of reliable operation in that polluted world?"
The ENTIRE purpose of the Directive is to enable FREE TRADE in Europe! We all
hope that protection against pollution, etc, will be gained or improved, but the
Directive WOULD NOT EXIST without the Single European Market. Once this is
realised, everything else becomes much clearer.
Best regards to you all
Jon Duerr
European Standards Co-ordinator
Mitsubishi Electric Europe, Industrial Automation Division
Hatfield, Herts., UK
The opinions expressed above are my own, and are not necessarily those of my
Company.
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Subject: Re: EU law?
Author: Paul Rampelbergh <[email protected]> at INTERNET
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: 23/02/97 04:06
HI Horst Haug and Patty Elliot
Looking true previous EMC mail I'll noticed your replay's:
Horst Haug wrote:
> ... I like the idea to control the market ...Patty Elliot wrote:
> ... the authorities have the right to verify the conformance ...
In view of your replay's, I have a simple question:
In what priority order are the products checked?
As you all know for the moment (in Belgium, and be sure in your country
it exists to) a lot of political, commercial practices and other special
" PROTECTIONs " are discovered and examined by several commissions.
Those protections are ranging from corrupts to gentle influences...
So again "In what priority order are the products checked?" and are those
checked in an unbiased priority order?
I know, good products don't have in theory not to worry about it, but
are they all good or just are some ignored?
Sorry Horst Haug and Patty Elliot but I disagree with your statements.
I don't own black money to have " favors " when my product is not that
good, do you?
On the other side, who will pay for all those overdone and unrequired
controls? You and me, don't forget it.
Do you not trust the honesty of your competitors? No, read back above
considerations and find out if you solve them with your remarks.
To my opinion, only complains due to bad influences on (interference)
or influences from (immunity) other products have to be taken in
consideration for control of conformity to the rules.
Isn't that in fact the basic and general purpose of the EMC rules:
- Protection against pollution and
- Assurance of reliable operation in that polluted world?
Horst Haug wrote:
> .....
> the "notified body" has the duty to check, if the products on the
> market comply to the EMC directive.....
> I like the idea to control the market, because it avoids advantages
> for manufacturer, which does not take care of the CE-mark and just
> stick the label on and ship without testing. It also forces the test
> houses to keep the quality level high.
> Horst
Patty Elliot wrote:
There does not have to be a complaint against your equipment in order for a
Notified Body to examine it. European authorities have the right to take
off-the-shelf products and examine them for compliance to the directives.
The Declaration of Conformity that is shipped with your equipment is a legal
document that states your product complies with the directive(s), and the
authorities have the right to verify the conformance.
Patty Elliot
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Paul Rampelbergh
Wezembeek-Oppem (Belgium)
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