Dear Ray,
          
          Regarding the Nordic variation to EN 60950 - It may seem an obvious 
          question, but if you are testing to EN 61010, then why are you 
          concerned about a Nordic variation to EN 60950 ?  Further, dealing 
          with the Nordic deviation, the usual connotation of "insulation" does 
          not include earthed conductive (metal) cases.  The bridging of 
          insulation would imply something like a varistor from the primary to 
          the secondary of a transformer.  There are other examples, but IMHO 
          placing a varistor from L-G would not violate the letter or the 
intent 
          of the Nordic deviation.
          
          Best regards,
          
          Dan Teninty PE
          HMSC
          Tucson, AZ
          [email protected]

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Subject: Surge Suppressers
Author:  [email protected] at CCGATE
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:    5/13/97 9:49 AM


     Dear Friends,
     
     It seems that surge suppressers have been a topic of much discussion 
     lately. Must be all of the surge testing to EN61000 4-5! Well at least 
     that's what brought up our issue. 
     
     We have a piece of 230V equipment that failed the surge test, (safety 
     testing will be to EN61010). In reviewing how to install varistors, we 
     have run into some concerns. In Europe the 230V supply is 1 line, 1 
     neutral, and 1 ground wire.  A  varistor connected between line and 
     neutral will suppress a surge, as long as the neutral is grounded. 
     
     For the 230V US voltage, there is 2 hot lines and a ground. To make 
     the varistor effective, it seems that the varistor needs to be 
     connected to ground.
     
     However, I know of a Nordic deviation out of EN60950 that states: 
     
     (DK, FI, NO, SE). Transient protection components shall be installed 
     in such a way that insulation for protection against electric shock 
     will not be bridged. This means that transient protection components 
     must not be connected to protective earthed parts in pluggable 
     equipment or to other accessible parts. 
     
     I think the concern here is the possibility of not having a good 
     ground, and then if the over voltage is shunted to ground, the chassis 
     could become hot. 
     
     Is this a valid concern? It sounds like a "double fault" scenario to 
     me. If so, does anyone have an alternative solution?
     
     Thank you for your consideration.
     
     Happy is the man that finds wisdom and gets understanding!
     
     
     Ray Russell
     
     [email protected]
     

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