Good Day,

Very interesting discussion about making average measurements.
I brushed away a few cobwebs and dug out an old White Paper:

"Techniques For Measuring Narrowband And Broadband EMI Signals
Using Spectrum Analyzers" by Siegfried Linkwitz & Al Wilcox of
HP's Signal Analysis Division.

I've no idea how old it is, (no date / I've had it for 12+ years)
>From pp 21-22...

"Average detection is obtained using video filtering in the
linear amplitude display mode.

Video (post detection) filtering provides averaging of the
higher frequency components (such as noise) at the output of
the envelope detector.  When the video filter bandwidth is
narrower than the resolution bandwidth filter, averaging occurs.
Narrowband (e.g., CW) signal amplitudes are not affected by
video filtering.

For true average, the Video BW must be less than the lowers PRF,
the frequency sweep must be slow enough to let the filters charge
completely and the spectrum analyzer must be in the Linear
amplitude display mode.

With the analyzer in Log amplitude mode, video filtering greatly
reduces the amplitude of the impulsive and random broadband signals.
The amplitude of narrowband signals is unaffected as shown above."

[sorry no diagram - Bob]

"With the analyzer in Linear amplitude mode, video filtering provides
the average value of a signal.

In the log amplitude mode the analyzer's video filter smoothes the
logarithmically distorted detector output signal.  For BB impulsive
signals the smoothed indication is considerably lower than the
average value of the impulses."

[Lot's of other interesting stuff in this paper too]

To Steve Kuiper (who posted the original question):

If you can still get the HP Product Note 85650A-1;
(another ancient document)
"A Guide to EMI Measurements Using the HP 85650A Quasi-Peak
Adapter with the HP 8568A or 8566A Spectrum Analyzer"
it has comprehensive instructions on making manual QP/AV
measurements.

FWIW I must have a light touch.  It took me 11 years to break the
keyboard on my (departed 8568B) SA. It was the only repair it ever
needed.

Bob Sykes
EMC Engineer
Gilbarco Inc.

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