Scott,

What you have outlined below sounds dangerous to me.  Here's why.

We also have used HP8591EM for a few years.  We had discovered that care
must be taken to establish where the marker is placed to obtain an accurate
"auto" reading.  We previously had used 5-20 MHz spans, marked the peak
signal of interest, and then performed auto measure at marker.  We found
that there was sometimes a difference of as much as 15 dB between doing this
and measuring manually.  Later we determined that due to the characteristic
of the emission, we needed to narrow the span to somewhere in the range of
100 kHz to perhaps 500 kHz to define the peak of the signal we were
interested in prior to activating the auto test at marker function.  This
produced comparative results of approximately 1 dB between auto and manual
measurements.

The real issue is to have a sufficiently narrow span to define the peak of
the signal of interest.  To me that means the peak occupies an area of at
least 20% of the display span, i.e., a broad hump. 

However, it is not sufficient to switch directly from a broad span to a
narrow span as the neighboring signal may be a few dB higher in a cluster of
emissions.  For this reason, I always step down the span incrementally,
monitoring neighboring peaks as I go until I have narrowed the span
sufficiently to produce a well defined peak signal -- then I measure qp or
whatever detector I am interested in (not forgetting to set the span to less
than the max span allowed for qp measurements by the instrument algorithm),
or run auto measure at marker. 

By the way, by the time I have done this in my ambient jungle, I have done
75% of the work of the auto test.  There is almost 0 benefit to doing auto
test at marker.

By doing it manually, I do sleep well at night (now).  Hope this helps.

Don Umbdenstock
Sensormatic

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> Subject:      Re(2): Conducted Emissions, average method.
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> You guys kind of lost me. I program my 8591EM with the antenna, preamp,
> cable, limit and whatever factors. I push the measure button and get all
> three readings, PK, QP, AVG. I hope I am not off in left field assuming
> that my analyzer knows how to make CISPR measurements and I can take the
> readings I get as gospel. I manually tune the spectrum, pick a signal and
> measure it. I do also spend a lot of time a zero span so I can listen to
> the signals. My stuff is pretty easy to pick out once you know it. Whether
> it is lin or log, I don't know, log I guess. As for spectral plots, forget
> it, not available (no plotter). No computers either, except the Excel
> workbook on my desktop. I record the three readings above by hand and
> later put them in a spreadsheet. I only do that to make it pretty since
> the analyzer has already corrected my signals. So, somebody please tell me
> that I am NOT off in left field and can sleep tonight knowing I am OK.
> Please?
> 
> Scott
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