Kate,
My apologies for the apparent slight. In the US, where I'm located,
NVLAP and A2LA were simply familiar to me. I happen to us NVLAP when I
qualified a former employers site. Quite possibly their are more
certifying bodies in the US than just those two and if they carry NIST
credentials I would accept them as providers of this service as well.
At the core of the MRA's coming into effect is that the
countries involved have labs that meet some sort of national independent
inspection, and I believe
that the same IS0 Guide 25 is at the heart. So depending on the country
in which you work the inspection agency name will change but the
recommendations are the same.
I would also agree that an example of the report and the time to
produce, and obviously report and test fees should be a checklist item.
I would be interested in seeing a copy
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Kate MacLean [SMTP:k.macl...@aprel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 8:52 PM
To: gmcintu...@packetengines.com; Randall Flinders;
'emc-pstc'
Subject: RE: Lab qualification - and a note on reports
From: Gary McInturff
<gmcintu...@packetengines.com>
To: "Robert F. Martin ITS/QS-Box"
<r...@itsqs.com>,
Randall Flinders
<randall.flind...@emulex.com>,
"'emc-pstc'" <emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org>
Subject: RE: Lab qualification
Date sent: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:09:41 -0700
Send reply to: Gary McInturff
<gmcintu...@packetengines.com>
> Yeah, I second that. I try to believe in as little
confirmation as
> possible. Extended stacks of paper don't verify anything. For
the EMC
> stuff I think that you really want to deal with labs that have
NIST
> approval through NVLAP or A2LA. Among other things if you
don't need an
> FCC ID you can ship your product as soon as you have the
report rather
> than wait for the 6 weeks of FCC time. These labs are also the
only ones
> that are going to be covered in the MRA's with Europe etc
<snip>
Just a reminder, All -
Canadian labs which are accredited by the Standards Council of
Canada also enjoy the same status as A2LA and NVLAP labs with
respect to FCC DoC rules. The accreditation standard is also
ISO
Guide 25. The Canadian - EU MRA is signed and in the
implementation phase, by the way...
I would add one additional suggestion to all of this discussion
of lab
qualification:
Many labs, although they may be technically competent, and have
the quality systems and controls to carry out accurate work,
fail to
properly showcase their work in the reports which they produce
for
their clients. Agency personnel (FCC, IC, etc) HAVE
COMMENTED TO ME ON THIS - understand that a poorly
prepared report reflects poorly on you as a manufacturer.
This is a mystery to us, as we see our reports as being the
tangible output of our work - test, certifcation or research.
Ask to
be shown a sample report! And beware of offers of "free" or
"cheap" reports - you will often get what you pay for. It takes
proper time and attention to carry out analysis of data and to
prepare reports and submissions.
Regards,
Kathy
Kathy MacLean
President
APREL Laboratories
-Research-Consulting-Training-Certification Testing-
-Specialists in Electromagnetics, Acoustics,
Wireless Telecommunications, and SAR-
51 Spectrum Way, Nepean, Ontario, Canada K2R 1E6
(613) 820-2730 (613) 820-4161(fax)
http://www.aprel.com
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