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From: CollinJJ at USABDMFG
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: 11/10/98 3:05PM
To: "MartinJP" <[email protected]> at INTERNET
Subject: Re: Emissions testing with support equipment
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     Joe,
     
     This a very common problem throughout the EMC community. Your question 
     of how different companies are handling this issue is a good one.
     
     However, I think the real question you should be asking is what does 
     the law (standards) require.  As I am sure you know, if you are 
     selling this PC with your system, it must be tested and pass as a 
     system. 
     
     I am not aware of any standard,that allows the mfg. to isolate part of 
     the OEM support equipment, from the test setup that is intended to 
     ship with the host unit.
     
     The decision EMC professionals must make falls under risk management:
     
     1. What are the risks of self certifying a system when the OEM (PC) 
     does not meet the EMC requirements ?
     
     2. Can I find an Approved Test Lab to write a report for this test 
     setup? If so, what is the labs liability should there be a problem 
     with the EU/FCC.
     
     3. What liability am I putting on my company by labeling a complete
     system as being compliant, when I had prior knowledge of the OEM (PC) 
     as being non-compliant?
     
     4. Will the EU/FCC go after the PC manufacturer only or will my 
     company share in the responsibility for the violation?
     
     
     Although I view the risk of being caught and prosecuted for the above 
     scenario as being low, I would not want to be one of the few that get 
     caught. It is my practice to select a PC mfg. that meets the 
     requirements and then manage them very aggressively when there are 
     compliance issues. Ultimately, if they can not deliver what they are 
     advertising, I would select another vendor.
     
     I have had good luck with this issue by doing the following:
     
     
     1. Conversing with fellow EMC professionals about compliant PC's they 
     have used or have heard about. 
     
     2. Selecting and evaluating my PC well before I start my project.
     
     3. Selecting several (3-4) PC vendors for my pre-qualification.
     
     4. Not specifying and selling a particular PC with my unit.
     
     
     
     Regards,
     
     Jeff Collins
     EMC/Product Safety Engineer
     PE Applied Biosystems
     [email protected]
     


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Subject: Emissions testing with support equipment
Author:  "MartinJP" <[email protected]> at INTERNET
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:    11/10/98 4:05 PM


     EMC Professionals,
     
     Our equipment requires the use of a personal computer to operate.  
     
     We sell these PC's with our system.  We test radiated emissions as a 
     system including the PC.  We have recently tested PC's from two very 
     well known PC manufacturers.  They have both failed Class B limits.  
     This makes it impossible for our "system" to pass Class B limits.  
     When we isolate the PC from the test chamber, our instrument passes.
     
     I am sure that we are not the only company that has this problem.
     
     Can you please provide me with your experiences on this issue and what 
     solution you came up with.
     
     All responses are appreciated. 
     
     Regards
     
     Joe Martin
     EMC/Product Safety Engineer
     P.E. Biosystems
     [email protected]   
     
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