Hi Peter & Rich,
 
 1. I disagree with Rich in that this circuit cannot be an ELV interconnection 
 circuit. ELV circuits are not permitted as such in 2.10.2 of UL1950 (IEC950 
 clones) There is a single exception to this in 2.10.3. But, since this is a 
 coaxial cable connection intended for outdoor routing as Peter has stated, it 
 is unlikely that this exception would apply.
 
 To accurately portray this circuit as SELV or TNV, TNV-1 and TNV-3 circuits 
are 
 circuits with expected overvoltage conditions from Telecommunication Networks. 
 As this cabling is expected to route outdoors (it is still not clear to what 
it 
 connects to), are telecommunication networks involved? The definition of 
 1.2.8.8 (TNV circuit) could apply to "any" secondary circuit, and 1.2.14.7 
 (telecommunication network) excludes "SELV circuits connecting units of data 
 processing equipment", but still leaves a lot of room for interpretation. 
 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if this circuit connects to a 
 telecommunications network, then it is by definition a TNV circuit, classed 1, 
 2 or 3 as appropriate for the intended application. Otherwise, it is likely an 
 SELV circuit, regardless of its routing.
 
 Peter, regarding your "TNV-1 exposed outdoors" statement, 1.2.8.9 states that 
 overvoltages from Telecommunication Networks are possible. Outdoors? It 
doesn't 
 state that. However, most overvoltage conditions and Telecommunication 
Networks 
 exist outdoors and I suppose its commonly assumed (there's that word again) 
 that overvoltages and outdoor applications closely coexist. And, if this 
 circuit is a TNV-1 circuit it must comply with the overvoltage conditions 
found 
 in 6.4.1 and 6.6 (UL1950).
 
 2. Rich has given a reasonable answer here. But it was not stated as to what 
 this coaxial cable connects to. Other connection conditions may exist 
depending 
 on the application.
 
 3. I also agree with Rich here in that SELV, by definition, poses no shock 
 hazard as far as safety is concerned. As for the cable itself, the cable can 
 only be Listed if its a completely assembled cable, otherwise, it may or may 
 not be Recognizied. But, as there are many many applications out there, as 
well 
 as many many coaxial cable styles, it would be impossible to give any kind of 
 meaningful answer here to your question, Peter.
 
 4. Rich's answer is a good one, however, the shield braid may not always be 
 relied upon to provide a good ground return, depending on the application.
 
 Just some of my opinions to throw back into the fray.
 
 Best regards and holiday wishes,
 Ron Pickard
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