Jack,

>From you message it seems you are more interested in determining what
levels of RF conducted emissions appear at your radio DC terminals - that
way, if your emissions are below FCC 15 and EN55022 AC line conducted
standards, you can make the argument that your product will not adversely
impact line conducted emissions when integrated into a larger system, and
that any over-limit AC conducted emissions would be the "fault" of the
AC-DC power supply manufacturer or system integrator.

EMC labs use the LISN because it is common to many line conducted specs in
the aircraft/MIL/Bellcore/ETSI worlds, its use is common in commercial AC
line conducted testing, it offers a convenient RF measurement point, and it
presents a 50 ohm measurement impedance for measurement repeatability.

Laboratory power supplies are often very noisy at RF frequencies,
especially in the 10 kHz - 30 MHz region, just where you want to make your
measurements.  Testing with batteries eliminates this noise problem, but
since many labs don't have them, the power supplies are used.  Inserting
the LISN helps filter out the lab DC supply noise,  but placing an
additional line filter in series with the LISN just after the lab supply
helps a lot better.

I don't understand what is meant by by subtracting out noise, unless it
means the noise from the golden power supply is very low, and therefore not
a significant contributor when you do your measurement of radio supply EMI
plus lab supply noise.

Testing DC-DC supplies in this way should be OK - caveats are you will be
making measurements in a 50 ohm system, and results may vary when the DC-DC
supply is operated with the actual AC-DC supply with its characteristic
impedance (probably not 50 ohms).  Also, some LISNs use ferrite cores to
get required
50 uH inductance, instead of stictly air core inductance - LISN specs will
give you saturation current, probably well above the current your product
will draw.

Best regards,


Tom Cokenias
Consultant, EMC & Radio Type Approvals
tel 650-726-1263        fax  650-726-1252

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