Mr. Jenson,

The MOV solution will take care of the line-line surge, but don't forget
the common mode component of this test.  This is usually much more
difficult to handle.  You are not allowed to use MOVs from line to
ground because of leakage (at least in AC systems).  The biggest problem
is resonance in the common mode filter, if it is a standard topology (CM
choke and Y capacitors).  This is a very high-Q filter.  We have
observed nearly 8kV peak line-ground on a 4kV common mode surge voltage
because of the resonance.  To avoid arcs, this increases primary to
ground clearances  to unacceptable levels, especially if you are working
with low power designs.   Again, without any method of clamping (no
MOVs) you may be forced into placing a damping network on your filter or
possibly a gas discharge tube. 

good luck

Dave Ried
[email protected]

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From: Ing. Gert Gremmen
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Surge filter
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 5:09AM

Hello Mr jensen


Just add a MOV between the phases.   A 20 mm disc type will survive both
type testing
and real life surges.  The smaller ones risc failure in testing if that
is
done according to
the proposed test schedules (due to the limited number of pulses they
can
absorb).

50% reduction of 1 or 2 kV : is that enough ??  The MOV wil limit the
pulse
to
approx 1.7 times it's specified voltage.

If you need better performance, use the transient suppressors. They
usually
limit the voltage
to approx 20 % over the indicated value. The lower voltages ones  5-50
Volt
up to 50%.
If it is for mains applications, select transil value according to peak
value of main sinus.


Regards,

Gert Gremmen, ing.

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Datum: donderdag 23 april 1998 12:51
Onderwerp: Surge filter


>Dear groupe,
>
>Does anyone have some good idears about designing a simple filter for
>surges (the kind of surges that comes from testing according to IEC
>61000-4-5)
>
>I was thinking about using an inductor, a capacitor and a MOV. But,
what
>is the requirements for the inductor ? and will it give enough
reduction
>of the puls at all.
>
>My experience is that a reduction of 50% is normally enough for our
>equipment.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Mr. Kim Boll Jensen
>
>ScanView A/S
>Denmark
>
>

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