Hello group,

It seems to me that the article in Washington Post, was written by someone 
who really had not done their homework. It sounded as the article was 
criticizing UL for not doing proper testing or not being able to write their 
standards adequately. Like most of the people in the group, I am certainly 
not a fan of UL for various reasons that are outside the scope of this 
particular subject, but one has to remember that almost majority of the 
standards are written with manufacturers directly involved during the 
generation of the standard. Obviously those of us who are being represented 
in various standard committee we who are responsible for writing the 
standard, try to influence the standard as much as we can in our industry 
favor and test houses such as UL, CSA , BSI, more or less go along with it. 
As for testing is concerned, all UL engineers as well as their counterparts 
in other test houses only test the product to the clauses of the standard and 
they are not allowed to go any further. On top of that, the way that any of 
these standard are written it is widely open to interpretation so we as test 
engineers always try to argue with the test house engineer to try to avoid 
any failure. Another point to bear in mind is that the test house engineers 
are only human like the rest of us and can make mistake or even overlook at 
some points. Last but not least, most of us have seen a certified product 
been slightly modified/altered by someone in our company for an unknown 
reason and still bears the safety mark without even informing any of the test 
houses concerned . So I believe we should look at the root casue of the 
problem and try to improve the situation by 
(a) be honest with the test houses during testing. 
(b) by trying to encourage our designers to make the product almost fool 
proof. 
© do addition in-house testing that exceeds the requirements of the standard 
(d) by being a truly responsible manufacturer.

Thanks
Peter

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