Hi John:


> My question: we have a UL mark on a box we build. One of the requirements
> that the auditors check is flammability of materials. 2 parts give us
> trouble - a molded bezel and a plex screen. Both are materials purchased
> elsewhere by our fabricators. UL says either assemble a 'paper trail' that
> shows continuous control of the materials, or use a 'recognized
> fabricator' (read buck$) to make our parts. Neither fab. house is
> recognized or wants to be.  UL is VERY evasive about the required
> documents for the 'trail'. Any one have this experience - and succeed?

Ahh, yes.  The famous UL "paper trail" syndrome.

1.  The 'paper trail.'

    How do YOU know that the molded part is molded from 
    the resin you specified for the part?  Do YOU know 
    how the fabricator tracks the resin from purchasing 
    to the finished part?  How are YOU satisfied that your
    fabricator is molding the part from the resin spec'd
    on your part drawing?

    Most of us (regardless of UL) require some sort of 
    documentation accompanying the molded parts.  At the
    very least, in order to accept the parts from the
    fabricator, the parts must have some sort of 
    fabricator identification, order reference, and part
    identification (usually our part number).  This is
    provided by the fabricator either pasted to the carton,
    or a shipping document, or a paper inside the shipping
    carton.

    Officially, the resin is a UL-Recognized Component.  
    At your factory, the UL inspector must be able to 
    identify the molded part as being molded from the UL-
    Recognized resin as specified in your end-product UL
    FUS Procedure.  Your contract with UL obligates you to
    provide such identification.

    You're lucky.  Your UL guy will allow almost any paper
    trail that includes the resin identification.  So, all
    you need to do is to ask your fabricators to add the 
    resin identification to the part identification document.
    We've done this, and it works.  But, its iffy.  The 
    next UL inspector may be more strict and shut you down
    because you don't have official UL traceability.

    You COULD take the UL guy to the fabricator to verify
    that the fabricator is using the correct material when
    he molds your parts.  Now THIS is spendy!

2.  UL fabricators.

    There are lots of UL fabricators throughout the world.
    When I worked in Spain, we had no trouble finding and
    using Spanish UL fabricators.

    Once in a while, you will find a fabricator is not a
    UL fabricator.  My policy has been that we need the
    fabricator to be a UL fabricator for traceability and
    control of the molding compound.  We'll continue buying 
    parts from him if he shows due diligence in obtaining 
    qualification under the UL program.  Never have we had 
    a refusal.

    If the fabricator requires us to pay for the UL
    qualification, we say "yes," but also we say that we
    own the qualification, and he can't sell UL parts to
    anyone else.  The fabricator doesn't take us up on 
    our offer.

    Any fabricator who refuses to join the UL fabricators
    program won't enjoy good growth in his business.  Too 
    many of us require our fabricators to be UL.  We won't 
    do business with him since his competition offers UL.
    Being in the UL fabricators program levels the playing
    field for fabricators.  Its a standard for being a
    fabricator.

3.  Buck$.

    Not true.  The person or organization who told you this
    was trying to get you off his case for applying for UL
    fabricator.

    A UL fabricator provides competitively priced products.
    Not an issue.

    As a general rule, UL simply documents the fabricator's
    process by which he tracks the resins from purchasing to
    the finished part.  Then, the fabricator can use his UL
    code to identify that the parts have the traceability.

    If the fabricator's documentation is found by UL to be
    deficient, you should think twice about using that
    fabricator.  It means he doesn't have adequate inventory
    control to guarantee that the part will be molded from
    the correct material.

    The cost of the UL investigation for a UL Fabricator is
    less than the cost of a full UL end-product investigation.
    FUS costs are the same as you experience for your
    products.  No big deal.

4.  Another way out.

    You can set up your FUS so that the plastic material is
    tested for the parameter required by the end-product
    standard during each FUS inspection.  In most cases, 
    the parameter is flame-rating.

    You can set up a lab to do the flame test each time the
    UL inspector shows up.  You take a sample of each part
    from the production-line and perform the flame test.
    Easy.  But UL will send an engineer to qualify your lab.

    Or, you can arrange for UL to perform the test at their
    labs.  The UL guy selects a part from your production-
    line, labels it, and you send it to the UL lab.  A 
    month later, both you and the inspector get a copy of
    the test results.

    Costly.  You'll probably spend as much for this service
    over the life of the product as would the fabricator for
    UL qualification.  And, you may have problems with 
    inventory control when you take parts from the production-
    line.

5.  Take the parts out of your FUS Procedure.

    A bezel is a part on the outside of the equipment.  Its
    usually attached to something else.  Examine the safety
    function of the bezel.  It may simply be a "decorative"
    part insofar as safety is concerned.  If so, you may be
    able to talk your friendly UL engineer into removing the
    part from the FUS Procedure.

A good question.  A long response.  As you may discern, I
don't have much tolerance for fabricators who don't want to
join the UL program.  If the fabricator wants to do business
with those of us who UL-certify our products, then he should
be in the UL program in order to satisfy his customers.


Best regards,
Rich



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 Richard Nute                      Product Safety Engineer
 Hewlett-Packard Company           Product Regulations Group 
 AiO Division                      Tel   :   +1 858 655 3329 
 16399 West Bernardo Drive         FAX   :   +1 858 655 4979 
 San Diego, California 92127       e-mail:  [email protected] 
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