Just to get Mike off the hook. I actually asked the question and it was
handed to me by a fellow engineer who happens to be a pilot. The answer has
been consistently the same and has even convinced my friend to quit doing
it.
But you have just given me a new thought here. Considering how much I love
having to carry my cell phone I may go flying this afternoon, they'll turn
it off you say! . hmmmmmmm
Gary

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com
[SMTP:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com]
        Sent:   Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:50 AM
        To:     Mike Hopkins; emc-p...@ieee.org
        Subject:        Re:RE: Concrete as an insulator??? -- and now
FCC/FAA


        Mike, I do not know if it is in the FCC rules or not, but your cell
phone
        service provider may not take lightly such actions.  Cell phones
make use of
        line of site and low power to be a cell. Once you are up in the air,
your phone
        can easily try to connect to every cell site in the state (and
beyond).  That
        means that you will tie up a large number of cell sites and possible
cause
        interference to other users of the cell system. You may find your
service
        provider turning off your cell service as a result. I am sure that
some of the
        people who work for the manufactures of cell phones, who are on this
list, can
        give a better idea as to how many cell sites you can tie up in the
airplane.

        Being a ham radio operator I have seen ham's use repeaters, while in
airplanes,
        it can and does get in the way of emergency communications. 

        Just my two cents....

        Jim

        Jim Bacher,  Senior Engineer
        Paxar - Monarch
        email:jim_bac...@monarch.com
        voice:1-937-865-2020 fax:1-937-865-2048


        ____________________Reply Separator____________________
        Subject:    RE: Concrete as an insulator??? -- and now FCC/FAA
        Author: Mike  Hopkins <mhopk...@keytek.com>
        Date:       08/24/99 5:25 PM


        If I'm not mistaken, there IS an FAA regulation prohibiting the use
of cell
        phones in airplanes -- I have the regs at home and will look it up.

        Mike Hopkins
        mhopk...@keytek.com

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: miksher...@aol.com [SMTP:miksher...@aol.com]
        > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:13 AM
        > To:   gmcintu...@packetengines.com; ed.pr...@cubic.com;
emc-p...@ieee.org
        > Subject:      Re: Concrete as an insulator???
        > 
        > 
        > In a message dated 8/23/1999 5:05:26 PM Central Daylight Time, 
        > gmcintu...@packetengines.com writes:
        > 
        > << Does anybody know why the FCC - not the FAA has regulations
        >  against using a cell phone in a private airplane. It is a little
more
        >  obvious for a commercial airplane that use the fuselage as a
return path
        >  from various equipment bays but private plans aren't wire that
way - I
        > don't
        >  think.
        >  There was a comment made that it interferes with the Cell system
in some
        >  manner, any clues? >>
        > 
        > Stated reason I've always heard, and which makes sense to me: one
triggers
        > 
        > multiple cells once one is airborne, which messes up a system that
is 
        > designed to hand off a call cell to cell, based on signal strength
and an 
        > assumption that the phone is on the ground.
        > 
        > Mike Sherman
        > FSI International
        > 
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