John, 

I can only try to relate safety with the extensive 
use of "shall" with ISO certification having gone 
through the lead auditor course nightmare.  

For ISO 9001, there's about 136 "shalls" listed. 
Get all your "shalls" right and you *will get* the 
certification.  Miss a "shall" and you *will get* 
most likely what's called a "major".  Just one 
major and you could lose your certification. In 
order to keep the certification (pass inspections), 
one MUST have a compliant system in place. 

That being said, "shall" IMO indicates something 
inevitable in the future as in something to do.  
"Must", also IMO, indicates something inevitable 
in the present as in something one must have now. 
In some respects, this is used in standards when 
one goes for agency testing, such as construction 
and performance.  


Once you've passed the "shalls", you move into 
the "musts" since having passed the shalls you 
now obviously must have something compliant. 

Man, that sounds too much like legalize. 

Think I'll go soak my head ... 

Regards,  Doug 


At 04:07 PM 7/16/99 -0400, John Juhasz wrote: 
>>>>

Hi group. 

The subject here is regarding the words 'shall' vs. 'must' in various of
product safety standards (including UL 1950 3rd Ed. and EN60950).

Does anyone have any insight into the definitions of these as applicable to
product safety? I have heard there are differences, but no one can seem to
give me an answer.

Comments please. 

John A. Juhasz 
Product Qualification & 
Compliance Engr. 

Fiber Options, Inc. 
80 Orville Dr. Suite 102 
Bohemia, NY 11716 USA 

Tel: 516-567-8320 ext. 324 
Fax: 516-567-8322  


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