Hello Peter:

According to IEC 384-14, the capacitor types suitable to bridge BASIC
INSULATION are Y2, Y3, or Y4 capacitors.  According to the voltages you
specify, a Y4 cap would be suitable.

The thing to keep in mind here is clause 1.5.3 of IEC 384-14, which defined
an X capacitor as:  "A capacitor...of a type suitable for use in situations
where failure of the capacitor...WOULD NOT lead to danger of electric
shock."  Also, clause 1.5.1 of EN 60950 - "Where safety is involved,
components shall comply with either the requirements of this standard or
with the safety aspects of the relevant IEC component standards."

Based on your voltages, it appears that you are dealing with a DC
distribuition system such as you would find in a Central Office....am I
correct in assuming that this is TNV?  (It could not be SELV as you are up
to 72VDC).

If so, then your question no doubt is embedded with concerns from clause
6.3.3 of EN 60950, UL 1950/CSA 950, etc.

I have had conversations with various agencies on this issue in the
past...some UL engineers I spoken with are of the opinion that any capacitor
could be used in this situation so long as the equipment passes the Electric
Strength test requirements.  However, a number of labs in Europe insist on
Y2 capacitors in this situation.

My recomendation would be, assuming that my assumptions on the details of
your application are correct:

1)  Use at least a Y2 capacitor if the geographical area in which the
equipment will be installed has a nominal mains supply voltage of greater
than 150Vrms.

2)  Use at least a Y4 capacitor if the geographical area in which the
equipment will be installed has a nominal mains supply voltage of less than
150Vrms.

Hope this helps...

Regards, Mel

mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:28 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Suitability of X2 Capacitors as Basic Insulation



Is it possible to use a 250 Vac X2 approved capacitor as a y capacitor
(input to ground) for a unit with an input voltage of 48/60Vdc up to 72Vdc?
In other words, is an X2 capacitor suitable for basic insulation?
Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
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Or Yehuda 60251, Israel

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