Folks,
 
Just to add to the mix of questions so far, here's a few more that Debbie
may wish to consider:
1)  is the demarkation point for the product clearly identified?  
2)  Is a smart jack always to be used with the product?  Who supplies it
(i.e. mfg. or customer)?
3)  Is the product in question specified to meet the immunity requirements
with/without the use of the smart connector?
4)  Are there a million+1garden variety smart jacks or is there only a
unique smart jack to connect with this particular product?
5)  What will the customer's obligations for installation and deployments of
the product be?
 
I guess the point I'm raising is that the product Debbie(below) refers to
has to live up to it's specs...whatever they are.  If the immunity spec is
not to be met stand-alone (i.e. without smart jack) due to whatever the mfg.
pushes onto the customer...that's fine but it should be clearly identified
on the mfg's side and to their customers in one way or another.  Any
assumptions that are made regarding what it is that Telcos supply is ok as
well...they might be wrong however, so the design docs, approvals and
customer supplied information should clearly spell out what the product
meets and what the customer's obligations are prior to deployments,
implementation and possible field issues.
 
My 2 Cents...if I'm way off track, please accept my apologies.
 
Kaz Gawrzyjal, P. Eng.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: RE: EN55024 question



Bandele - 

Please forgive an ignorant question: 

I'm not going to pretend to be an EMC standards expert, but I fail to see
how the presence or absence of processing an incoming signal has anything to
do with whether there is a direct or indirect connection to outside lines.
To wit: "outside" is easily enough understood as a line (presumed metallic)
that enters a building structure from an uncontrolled environment and
subject to transients.  Direct implies to me that there is no interposing
hardware, other than interconnects (no voltage surge suppression devices,
galvanic isolating equipment, etc).

Is this an interpretation from a Notified Body or known to be the intent of
the standards committee that wrote the requirement?

Regards, 

Peter L. Tarver, PE 
[email protected] 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Bandele Adepoju 
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:16 PM 


Hello Debbie, 

If the jack has processing capabilities (if it takes the incoming 
data signal and reprocesses it or reformats it), any connection to 
it is considered to be an "indirect" connection.  If the jack does 
not have processing capabilities (if it passes the data signal 
straight through), any connection to it is considered to be a 
"direct" connection. 

Regards, 

Bandele 
Jetstream Communications, Inc. 
[email protected] 


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forwarding for Debbie... 

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Subject:    EN55024 question 
Author: Debbie Mallory <[email protected]> 
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:       8/25/00 10:59 AM 


> Hello, 
> 
> I have a question about the use of the word "directly" in Note 2, of Table

> 2, in EN55024: 1998.  It says "Applicable only to [telecommunication] 
> ports which according to the manufacturer's specification may connect 
> directly to outdoor cables." 
> 
> If the TTE has a T1/E1 interface that connects to the "outdoor cable" via 
> a smart jack, is this considered a direct connection (and thus subject to 
> immunity testing) or does it not apply?  
> 
> Can I make any assumptions about whether phone companies throughout the 
> EEU install smart jacks at the customer premises?    
> 
> Thanks for your comments. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Debbie Mallory 
> AFC, Inc. 
> Largo, FL 

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