Jim -

Except for when a high breaking capacity fuse is needed, arc extinguishing
fillers, like sand, are not generally necessary.  I would also expect that
such a fuse would not be in a primary circuit, where the US safety standard
expects a fuse to see 10kA for miniature fuses.  Even most of these fuses
(again, in the US) don't use arc extinguishing fillers, but are simple glass
tubes with metal ferrules (the 1" by 1-1/4" miniature fuses, and even
several varieties of 5mm by 20mm fuses).

The above is based on my experience testing fuses for about 4 years, during
my tenure at UL.

Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
ptar...@nortelnetworks.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Freeman


In all of this discussion, no one has mentioned the possibility of fire from
blowing a PCB trace fuse. I know that there are flame retardants in the PCB
material that protect to a certain flashpoint but to rely on that mechanism
for fire prevention is a bit far fetched. From my limite experience with
fuses, there is generally a large structure that is enclosed in sand to
prevent a fire from spreading. 
Jim Freeman 
  
Peter Tarver wrote: 
  
My experience with safety agencies is they do not want to rely on traces
opening to act as fuses and no standards have been developed, that I am
aware of, to address this issue.  Fuses certification gets involved in the
metallic alloys used, to the fraction of a percent, the conductor size,
additional construction features, such as heat sinking elements for time
delay characteristics, tension loading for fast action, blah, blah, blah. 
Most of these issues are far too difficult to control for pwb traces,
especially considering the etching processes don't lend themselves to  the
level of control necessary to be a reliable fuse of specific ratings.
Additionally, the heat sinking from pwb layout of one product to another or
varying copper thicknesses in a product line, adding or subtracting ground
planes for emc, the variability of soldering processes and location/thermal
capacity of components on the pwb make this seem far too cumbersome to want
to work with. 
BTW, this is a very different world from "repeated twice, same result"
single-fault testing, where a pwb trace opens. 
Regards, 
Peter L. Tarver, PE 
ptar...@nortelnetworks.com 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matsuda, Ken [mailto:matsu...@curtisinst.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:02 AM 
To: emc-p...@ieee.org 
Subject: PCB fuse trace 
  
I was wondering if anyone knew a standard for the US, Canada, and Europe 
that covers PCB board traces that can be used as fuses? 
  
  
Thanks for the help, 
Ken 
 

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