Gert:

What do you have at each end of the UTP cables besides transformers?  There are 
a lot of emitteres bsides 50-60Hz in a hospital to cause such errors on data 
cables.  Transients from elevators stopping and starting induce terrific 
transients in UTP cables. 

Can you actually monitor the data at the terminal end by brodging a scope 
across it? Do you use the scope in differential mode in order not to disturb 
the balanced line?  Perhaps the transformer coupling requires a grounded center 
tap or a connection to signal common. 

Check your cable routing to ensure proximity to high current carrying 
conductors is as far as possible. 

Those are just some possibilities. 

Good luck

Ralph Cameron
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gert Gremmen 
  To: Emc-Pstc@Ieee. Org 
  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:14 PM
  Subject: FW: common mode voltages in utp 100 Mbs network


  For some reason the message below did not make it to the list.
  And honest, there are no 4-letter words in it ! ;<)
  So heres a retry:

  Regards,

  Gert Gremmen, (Ing)
  Ce-test, qualified testing

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gert Gremmen [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:38 PM
  To: Emc-Pstc@Ieee. Org
  Subject: common mode voltages in utp 100 Mbs network


  Hello group,
   
  Does anyone have experiences with common mode voltages 50-60 Hz of high 
impedance
  that disturb the network traffic on a UTP Cat 5  10/100 Mbs network. ?? Both 
10 and 100 Mbs traffic were affected.
   
  A customer complained about varying network performance on several places in 
a large hospital.  As soon as I connected an oscilloscope to ground on one of 
the network conductors the problem disappeared (for the appr work station) The 
measure CM voltage was less then 2 Volts at 1MOhm to ground. Unloaded I suspect 
the CM-voltage to be much larger.
  Well this makes sense if the receivers of the network card are getting to 
much CM-voltage
  and are functioning only during the zero crossing of the CM-voltage. However, 
the modern utp Cat 5 network cards are all transformer coupled, so they should 
balance out the CM voltage.
  Could there be insufficient symmetry in the network cards line transformer to 
transfer part of the CM voltage into DM voltage ?   And why network twisted 
pairs do not contain grounding resistors of about 1M ?
  I am not an network specialist, but helped out my customer using a handful of 
1M resistors.
  I think that is highly unusual as a solution , least to say.
  Any clue will be highly appreciated as usual.



  Regards,

  Gert Gremmen, (Ing)
  Ce-test, qualified testing

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