I am not familiar with any standard or other test method for rough
edges and corners.

However, to establish compliance with EN 60950 , I use
a slice of emballage foam (the touch one)
(not the polystyrene, but the more elastic one, not so white but slightly
transparent)
 used to pack EMC test instruments (you get it: lots of these available
here)

I decided to cut these into 5x5x10  (cm) slices and put some
drafting tape (tesa) on top and side .  We then apply the device
on 45 degree angle with the corner / side to be tested
and apply 50 Newton. At the same time we slide
the sample along the side (not on corners) in one
fast move for 10 cm.

This test should leave no permanent traces (but greasy) on the tesa tape,
nor protrude into it.

I managed to simulate the cutting effect of  paper using
this home brew device (though at lower forces and repeated
more often)

Most alum plates that have not been rounded  are protruding
the draft tape, but as soon as the corner is rounded the tape
folds a little bit but does not protrude.

Of course, the foam is not characterized, nor is the drafting tape.

I have found that this device is most often more resistant then
skin. I think that is because that tape is flatter then skin,
and no hard surface is below the tape (as bone in a finger).
The next time I want to use a thin 4-5 mm slice and put wood
under it to make it more rigid.

If anyone here wants to duplicate my efforts, having access to
several tapes and foams, we might manage to create a suitable
device in this group.



Regards,

Gert Gremmen, (Ing)
Ce-test, qualified testing

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
Richard Pittenger
  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:57 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
  Subject: RE: FW: SHARP EDGES/SURFACES



  Richard:

  I used to work at UL very close to the engineer who designed the sharp
edge tester in the early 1970's. In my experience with him, and since
leaving UL, the sharp edge tester is only to be used for a "referee"
determination of whether or not a given edge is too sharp. That is, whenever
there's a dispute. In the vast majority of situations, a simple test of
running your finger across the edge is sufficient to make the determination.

  I'm not familiar with the radius method but I would think that it would be
hard to measure unless it was awfully blunt and, therefore, no question
about being a sharp edge.

  Hope that this information is helpful.

  Regards,
  Richard Pittenger
  Agency Approval Engineer
  PMI Food Equipment Group
  Troy, Ohio


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        03/21/00 11:26 AM
        Please respond to WOODS


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                cc:
                Subject:        RE: FW: SHARP EDGES/SURFACES




  For those of you who perform a risk assessment on enclosures, what
objective
  criteria do you apply to ensure that cutting hazards due to burrs and
sharp
  edges are minimized to an acceptable level? So far I have heard of two
  methods: a specified minimum radius and a physical test of running tape
over
  edges (the UL test).

  Richard Woods

          ----------
         From:  Dick Grobner [SMTP:[email protected]]
         Sent:  Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:10 AM
         To:  '[email protected]'
         Cc:  '[email protected]'
         Subject:  RE: FW: SHARP EDGES/SURFACES


          When we perform a "risk assessment" on the design of one of our
  equipment
         enclosures, we also consider any possible hazards within the
  enclosure. Any
         harm or injury to the patient, operator or bystander (this is where
  I
         include service personnel)is not allowed, unless it can be duly
  justified
         (we strive to "design out" all potential risks). In some cases we
  utilize
         third party service personnel on a worldwide basis. I would not
want
  any
         undue negative feedback related to personnel injury (or personal
  liability
         claims). Yes - I would consider internal hazards as well as
  external. I hope
         this clears things a little!

          -----Original Message-----
         From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
         Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:46 AM
         To: Dick Grobner
         Subject: Re: FW: SHARP EDGES/SURFACES


          Dick,

          My question was related to SEMI standards and not IEC 601-1. Brian
  Harlowe
         gave a very good answer regarding the SEMI requirements.

          Now back to 950/601/1010 standards, is the requirement stricly for
  outer
         surfaces (where operator is likely to touch) or also for places
such
  as
         within an enclosure where access is restricted to service
personnel.
  I have
         seen many Listed/Approved units which have rough edges/surfaces
  which may
         injure a serviceman if touched (edges of PWB, card guides, heat
  sinks,
         etc.).

          Best Regards




          At 08:16 21/03/2000 -0600, you wrote:
         >EN 60601-1 (UL2601)section 23 states:
         >Surfaces, corners and edges:
         >Rough surfaces, sharp corners and edges which may cause injury or
  damage
         >shall be avoided or covered.
         >In particular, attention shall be paid to flange or frame edges
and
  the
         >removal of burrs
         >Compliance is checked by inspection.
         >
         >I'm not familiar with ITE standards, but I would suspect that
  UL1950 would
         >address this issue also.
         >
         >In addition: a Risk Assessment / Hazard Analysis should be
  performed on the
         >design and if such hazards exist they would be identified and
  addressed /
         >eliminated.
         >
         >Hope this helps!!
         >
         >
         >
         >
         >-----Original Message-----
         >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
         >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 5:29 AM
         >To: [email protected]
         >Cc: [email protected]
         >Subject: Re: SEMI and SHARP EDGES
         >
         >
         >
         >Hi Peter
         >           The only reference I can find is in SEMI S8-95 the
         >ergonomics bit. Clause 10.1.6 states " Sharp edges or corners that
         >present a personnel safety hazard or potential damage to clothing
  or
         >equipment should be suitably protected or rounded"  but they do
not

          >give any dimensions.
         >
         >Mind you how do you radius the average table top/panel to
2.5ins???
         >
         >
         >Brian Harlowe
         >
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