Paolo, Thank you for the information. I suspect that you are correct as to the critical nature of the frequency modulation method. The design engineer picked the device, probably as the cheapest vendor. The device did not behave as I expected, based on some Internet research of dithered clock technology. We were very pressed for time, but I hope someday to spend some more looking at this technology. Perhaps my experience explains the digital TV set interference, since all such devices are obviously not the same.
Scott Lacey -----Original Message----- From: paolo.ronc...@compuprint.it [SMTP:paolo.ronc...@compuprint.it] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 5:21 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Dithered clocks and EMC - BEWARE I have a very succesfull experience with SSCG (Spread Spectrum Clock Generation) that is a patented technology used to intentionally spread the energy of oscillators and clock signals and any signal derived from the clock. I am sure Keith Hardin knows it first-hand because he is one of the developers ! We have been using an SSCG chip since 1995 on most of the electronics of our printers - most of them class B devices, with oscillator frequencies in the range 24 - 32 MHz. We even managed to get significant cost reductions by switching from 4-layer to 2-layer boards and still passing CISPR22 and FCC class B limits for radiated emissions. One point that seems not to have come up in this discussion is the kind of dithering we are talking about. In SSCG the main clock frequency is modulated, but just ANY frequency modulation is not enough ! Key is the wave-shape of the modulating function, and that is the crucial point in the SSCG patent (Keith, correct me if I'm wrong). The "trick" is to maximize the rate of change of the function representing the frequency modulation, so that the oscillator spends the minimum time on any given frequency within the modulating range, thus avoiding additional peaks in the emission spectrum. The modulating function in the SSCG technique does just that. This is best explained in the first (to my knowledge) publication on the subject (here, too, Keith knows much more !!) : K.B.Hardin, J.T.Fessler, D.R.Bush (Lexmark Intl.): "Spread Spectrum Clock Generation for the Reduction of Radiated Emissions" - 1994 IEEE Intl. Symposium on EMC, August 1994 Chicago (Symposium Record page 227) I suspect an explanation to Scott's problem may be that he didn't use the SSCG technique but another form of dithering that was not controlled in such a way as to get the flat frequency distribution that you get with SSCG. Also the amount of frequency deviation can be important. The attenuation you get in quasi-peak (QP) readings is dependent on that. I hope Scott can give us more details. As to the problems with digital TV, I honestly don't have any knowledge about that, but I remember the same inventors of SSCG did a study on interference potential of this technique : K.B.Hardin, J.T.Fessler, D.R.Bush (Lexmark Intl.): " A Study of the Interference Potential of Spread Spectrum Clock Generation Techniques" - 1995 IEEE Intl. Symposium on EMC Atlanta ( Symposium Record page 624). Hope this helps. Paolo Roncone Compuprint s.p.a. - Italy ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org <mailto:majord...@ieee.org> with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com <mailto:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com> Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org <mailto:pstc_ad...@garretson.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org <mailto:ri...@ieee.org> ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org